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Just because Ceri is gone right now, doesn't mean this thread should go to the 2nd page. I found it done near the bottom.

I am also back from the beautiful island Maui, now I'm on my beautiful (but different) island. A little rainy here and not as warm. But it is good to be home.

We are getting close to the completion of the finishing, some more sanding, painting, buffing and wiring. It'll be over before you know it, so we should all enjoy it while we can. When it is done we won't have a build thread to follow and it'll be back to MIM vs MIA threads (shutter) :roll:

Has there been any talk of a neck? Weren't you making a neck Niki?

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Pringle420 wrote:
Has there been any talk of a neck? Weren't you making a neck Niki?


It wont be ready in time and in truth wont be deserving of this bit of class our Ceri is knocking up. I'd rather buy him a neck than have him use my firewood attempt. :lol:

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this is a Fernandes I grabed from a pawn shop for $100 it was robbin egg blue with stickers on it but it played very well, refinished it and had Strat hardware put in.
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bruceabowen wrote:
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Nice color and work! I use to use the old paint through the lace trick in the 1970s doing custom painting on cars!

Did C ever say what he was doing for a neck????

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Xhefri wrote:
Did C ever say what he was doing for a neck????

Hmm - I don't think he did...

Got home Monday night, but a bit of a delay carrying on as I found I had to go shopping. As shall be shown...

Now we're going to spray our final color coats using top lacquer. So it's time to paint on my latex mask for the binding - one last time (ye-e-eah - it's so boring!):
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Just to keep a record of the thing, here's the front and back, prior to the final color stages:
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Oh, and a couple of other details to take care of. I want the world to know who did the work here, so I put a decal in the spring cavity:
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I used to put a decal in the neck pocket too (as on the Pale Blue Strat thread), as added security against someone mistaking my guitars for something they're not. But that involves spraying more lacquer in there than I really want to, so I've recently picked up some of these letter and number punches, with which I simply stamp the maker's name and a serial number in that cavity:
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Nobody's going to sand that out!

BTW: on serial numbers, I mark a body made on its own with a unique number set out as Bxxxx; and a neck on its own with Nxxxx. A body and neck made together as a unit get the same serial number, both configured Gxxxx.

Simple, huh? How handy if Fender related necks and bodies to each other by serial number too. But then we'd have so much less to do round here... :lol:

Now then. I want to spray a medium wine red round the edges of my 'burst and right across the back. So I set to mixing test samples with my various waterbased colorants, as seen in this earlier picture. A couple of early tests visible at the front:
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But. Did you ever find you just couldn't get quite the tint you were looking for? No matter how you mix 'em the manufacturers' colors just don't quite make the cut?

No worries. Let's make our own.

Here's a nice shop:
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That is not merely an art shop, it is what's known as an "artists' colourmen". Those are the people who actually make the paints used by artists, which of course are the finest quality colors you can buy. That picture shows a corner of the shop premises of a company called L Cornelissen: they were established in 1855 and the nice Victorian fittings you see there are original to that date.

I love that shop! Not another like it in the world.

And their pride and joy are all those jars you see of some of the very finest and purest raw pigments anywhere on the planet. I know that because decades ago I happened to have a job with them very, very briefly till someone made me what seemed like an offer I couldn't refuse and I left. I've always deeply regretted that, because there was a heap of good stuff I could have learnt there.

I was meant to spend part of my time driving the delivery van and the rest in the warehouse making up paint and packing it into tubes while Mr Cornelissen devoted himself to phoning round the world trying to track down sources of rare pigments. Lapis lazuli from Afghanistan for example, which at that time of the Russian occupation had to be smuggled out in little packages secreted in someone's turban. Worth far more by weight than gold or opium - had the Mujahideen but known it...

Anyway, I ramble. :oops:

Here's a tiny bag of Quinacridone Red I bought. Expensive, but it will go a very long way:
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For those as know about these things, that is somewhat similar to Alizarin Crimson, though a bit more blue-purple and with far better light-fast properties.

Here's what we need to turn it into guitar lacquer:
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A small sheet of glass for grinding on (would be better if that had a sandblasted surface, but never mind), and the mushroom shaped glass object you see in the middle is called a "muller", which I just happen to have handy. We spoon out a little of the Quinacridone pigment and add some of the "medium" to it, in this case our waterbased lacquer:
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Then we take the muller and mix the two together using a figure-of-eight pattern till any hint of grittiness has gone and the mixture suddenly takes on a kind of sleek, glossy appearance:
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That's all there is to it:
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Now we can simply scoop it up with the palette knife, pop it in a jar and mix in more lacquer to get the desired density of color:
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Be fair - the internet is smothered in guys building guitars, but you don't get this kind of detail from most of 'em, huh? :D

Now we just need to spray it on. I'm going to build my wineburst over a couple of days, doing the darker outermost stage tomorrow. Here's today's spraying:
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Halfway through:
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And after three passes:
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I think I've overdone it a bit in the middle, so when that has hardened I shall knock it back a touch with some wet-and-dry.

You can do three or four passes a day with waterbased lacquer (and many others), and you will see tomorrow why I need to let it dry nicely overnight at this point before moving on with the last color coat.

Ta-ta - C


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I'm just glad I don't have to go to that extreme to match automotive colours. :D


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So what is up with the different wine glasses here? Ummmm... And as you paint the glass has less and less.....ummmmm........ :wink:

Man C, I have custom painted classic and street rod cars, old motorcycles (Indians and Harleys), refrigerators and even quite a number of guitar bodies, but never mixed my own pigment from powder! We mixed from mixing colors in the shops I use to work at and added pearl and flakes, but not this. I watch in eager anticipation!

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Xhefri wrote:
So what is up with the different wine glasses here? Ummmm... And as you paint the glass has less and less.....ummmmm........ :wink:

The whisky is one of my faves. Nutt'n wrong with that.

The other drink however:
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Did you see Casino Royale three or four years ago? The picture shows the drink Bond invents and names a Vesper:

3 measures Gordon's gin (I prefer Plymouth)
1 measure vodka
1/2 measure Kina Lillet
Lemon peel

No mention of whether it is shaken or stirred: I keep my gin and vodka in the freezer so no need for shaking.

And I'm here to tell you it looks cool and is... flippin' disgusting! Don't bother!

As with most things Fleming got the details wrong. Lillet (a vermouth style drink) had stopped using the Kina epithet in the '30s, decades before Bond ordered it in the book. D'oh!

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Ceri wrote:
Did you see Casino Royale three or four years ago? The picture shows the drink Bond invents and names a Vesper
Cheers (hiccup) - C

Funny, I just watched it (again) last Thursday evening! Somehow I missed that one!

Hey, How about a close up of the sticker? And how will you keep it from reacting to the lacquer? Or is this a water based paint all the way to the finished product?

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Did you see Casino Royale three or four years ago? The picture shows the drink Bond invents and names a Vesper
Cheers (hiccup) - C

Funny, I just watched it (again) last Thursday evening! Somehow I missed that one!


Must admit, when Eva Green is on screen I'm not thinking about drink recipes. [Sigh...]

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The James Bond Martini was mentioned in your previous trashed body repair thread!

Deja vu!

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Another outstanding episode my friend!! You're right , you don't get this type of detail on other guitar building sites!! 8) :wink:


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ahh ceri, nicely done.

i have nothing even remotely as nice as that art shop here. In fact there are only 2 places with any decent stock. You are really upping the ante on these threads, it will mean some elbow grease to hang with the master once i get rolling on my upcoming projects.

i really like how the staging of your 'place settings' has evolved since it's genesis with the mystery coffee cup. as we have moved into new territory in your work, we have moved from a backyard garden atmosphere and more into the realm of fine dining. i fully expect to be seeing shots of a sommelier
lurking in the background of your next project.

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