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Man you rock Ceri!

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Ceri,

Truly, you are way too modest and should be most proud of yourself.

This whole project is absolutely fantastic and just like a woman addicted to her favorite, "soap opera", I now eagerly await each day's installment.

Please continue!

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Very impressive Ceri!!! CAn't wait for your next post!!


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After seeing more and more of Ceri's ability fabricate jigs to overcome obstacles I can only come to one conclusion. The man is a genius. I'm completely astounded by his "can do" attitude. :D

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I waited all day to check out your post Ceri. Thank you for sharing what you do. I eagerly await the lamination...


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this post is great Ceri! always looking froward to it.


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This is an epic rebuild! Can't believe what you are achieving here and I can't wait to see the final result.

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Ceri,
Thanks again for the excellent project and your masterful presentation. Have you considered pitching your rebuilds to one of the guitar mags, maybe doing a Mr. Fix-It column? You have quite a following here, just saying.
Looking foward to the drop top segment, I have visions of many clamps, a template of the pick-up cavity and a few more of your grandfather's hand tools. Kind of neat seeing a digital caliper and a thumb plane being used on the same project.

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Yeah, do that 12B. Haven't seen or heard very much from you lately my friend!!

Cheers!!
I'll be really busy until Christmas. working 70ish hours a week at my main job, plus working when I can to help my brother out with his reno business. After Christmas i'll be back to pestering my forum friends.

I had to post nd compliment ceri on this fine post and fine project.

Like martian i will have to keep checking in to "my stories" and see where this heads.

Now i am half thinkin i should dig out an old amp of mine that went up in smoke and send it across the pond, and see if ceri can electrocute himself working on that :wink: :wink:

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Ceri, I have been tuning in to this thread on a day to day basis. I do think you're doing a great job. I think what I'm enjoying the most is seeing different methods in woodworking that kind of takes place when a person really needs to accomplish something within their means. A garage setup isn't quite as equipped as a custom shop, so it forces one to get a job done by using methods that wouldn't normally be used. Your thought process has been on the money so far.

The surface planing jig is a great example. There are so many tasks that can be done with a router if you know how to think outside of the box.
The leather punch trick was new to me. I can honestly say I haven't seen that one before.

I don't want you to think I've been avoiding commenting in this thread. I just got through doing 3-shows in 5-days, all 2 1/2- 3 hour sets, and I've been wiring guitars in between time. So I have to keep my posting to a minimum and quick these days.

I'm mainly fixing a lot of the disasters I made when I was teaching myself how to gut and re-wire.:oops:

If you think it takes me any quicker to work on guitars than yourself, I can tell you, it doesn't. Instruments are a different ball-game. Anytime I'm working on one of my guitars, I try to be as careful and precise as possible. I only wish I had the time to build my own. Being in this band makes it impossible. But I'm just as limited in tools around the house if not more. So in reality it would be no different. I have to really work within my means and around my limitations.

In a shop, I have 24" planers, joiners, almost any tool you can think of, huge belt sanders and spindle sanders, last one I worked in even had a 36" disc sander. That contour would have taken 5-seconds to straighten out on one of those. But around here, I would be forced to conjure up something similar to what you did.

So you get a big thumbs up from me man. Common sense of the tools, materials, their limitations within the scope of safety, and a little stepping outside the box and pushing that spectrum sometimes is what makes a good woodworker. I've done things before that would make an average person soil his pants let alone be by the seat of 'em. But in seeing what you've done so far, you do have the common sense of a pro woodworker. Do you have all 10 fingers? Ok then..

Fyi.. The tear-out you experienced is normal when using a router on edge-grain. A router just doesn't have the rpms to keep it from happening. It's the nature of the beast. That's kind of why I mentioned the disc sander before. I would suspect a shop would opt for using a sander (disc or belt) in a stain-grade situation to accomplish that task. That's why CNC is king in the initial shaping process, the CNC has a much higher rpm, thus the tear-out is kept very minimal if at all. All woods have their weak spots. If you're ever afraid tear-out, or a ding, is going to transfer into a veneer, you can always thin out some bondo with acetone and skim it, sand it.

I really don't do very much woodworking outside of my job. Music is my break from woodworking. But I'm having a great time seeing what you're doing in this thread. I love to see people who are passionate about woodworking, and especially instruments as well, since I carry the same interests.

I'm not exactly sure what you're thinking for a top for the guitar. But I have bent solid wood and veneers before. I drew the angle out on a piece of paper, and it's in the iffy territory for me. That sharp edge can cause the wood-grain to tear depending on the thickness, wood type, direction of the grain etc. (Assuming it's a veneer)..You'd certainly be safe if you knock the edge and made it smoother for the bend. Always best to stay away from any sharp corners when bending if you can, and since it's a guitar contour, I just can't see a reason to keep it a sharp transition.

Since I'm not exactly sure what you're using (thickness, wood-type, stain grade? paint grade? I'll have to read back over too see if I missed that discussion), I just thought I'd throw that out there as a second opinion or reassurance of what you might have already be thinking.

Loving the thread man.. I'm as riveted as anyone on here. :D

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Ingenious Ceri.

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Ceri - I am continously amazed at the depth of your talents. I am proud to even be on the same Forum as you.

Thanks for all the wisdom you give, whether about guitars or life.

You have my deep respect.

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[Saturday morning] People, I never cease to be completely knocked out by your amazingly kind remarks and enthusiasm. It just makes it so much fun - thank you! :D

I am well aware that there are some individuals on this thread who are way, way ahead of me on this stuff and their generous attituded is particularly noted and appreciated.

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Fyi.. The tear-out you experienced is normal when using a router on edge-grain. A router just doesn't have the rpms to keep it from happening.

Ha! Well that is very useful information, and now I look at the controls I realise I didn't have the router set at full speed. So I have myself at least partly to blame. Very helpful, thank you.

And folks, you can see that when I say I'm not much of a carpenter it is not false modesty...! :lol:

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I'm not exactly sure what you're thinking for a top for the guitar. But I have bent solid wood and veneers before. I drew the angle out on a piece of paper, and it's in the iffy territory for me. That sharp edge can cause the wood-grain to tear depending on the thickness, wood type, direction of the grain etc. (Assuming it's a veneer)..You'd certainly be safe if you knock the edge and made it smoother for the bend. Always best to stay away from any sharp corners when bending if you can, and since it's a guitar contour, I just can't see a reason to keep it a sharp transition.

Yep, smoothing a regular curve into the edge between the two surfaces is on the to-do list. I'm not going to try and bend wood round a hard corner!

It so happens I have a friend who is a traditional type boat builder. He's a big inspiration to me on this thing of bringing wrecked items back to life, because that is exactly what he has done with boats.

I've had a good talk with him about how he steam bends very large timbers to form the ribs of boats so I have an idea of the process - in theory. And I've taken the precaution of having the Missus give me a luthier's bending iron for my last birthday. Never used it yet though: that is going to be another first for me on this thread...!!!

BTW Shred: gigging for you - this is what I do to get away from the day job! :D Man, I'd love a turn in your shop. I actually have a modest workshop with a carpenter's bench in the garage, but it is in such a mess and also badly lit that as you can see, the garden is my prefered working space... :lol: :roll:

Oh, and nice to see Twelvebar around. I was about to launch a "missing persons" thread...

More later guys - C


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Simply one of the greatest threads I've seen on ANY forum...

Oddly also an inspiration to better playing...and for lack of a better phrase guitar brotherhood...


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Ceri,
Another great episode.That is impressive. This is better than a Dan Erlwine DVD from StewMac. I was wondering how you were going to tackle that arm contour. Brilliant...
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