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It could make me, a hard core rosewood guy, into an all maple (I presume it's a maple) advocate!



I believe it's sycamore. I think what Europeans call Sycamore is a kind of maple? What we call Sycamore in North America is a different tree.(Sycamore in the middle east, and probably the first to bear the name is a fig tree.)

So depending on where you live, you might not get the wood you want, if you are inspired by Ceri to make a sycamore neck.

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Twelvebar wrote:
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It could make me, a hard core rosewood guy, into an all maple (I presume it's a maple) advocate!



I believe it's sycamore. I think what Europeans call Sycamore is a kind of maple? What we call Sycamore in North America is a different tree.(Sycamore in the middle east, and probably the first to bear the name is a fig tree.)

So depending on where you live, you might not get the wood you want, if you are inspired by Ceri to make a sycamore neck.


Oh, I'm inspired alright! I just don't have the talent or ability to make that!
I just play!

Thanks for the information on trees! I don't really know much about it. Even though I read a lot about guitars. I guess I need to read more about guitar making.

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It could make me, a hard core rosewood guy, into an all maple (I presume it's a maple) advocate!



I believe it's sycamore. I think what Europeans call Sycamore is a kind of maple? What we call Sycamore in North America is a different tree.(Sycamore in the middle east, and probably the first to bear the name is a fig tree.)

So depending on where you live, you might not get the wood you want, if you are inspired by Ceri to make a sycamore neck.


Oh, I'm inspired alright! I just don't have the talent or ability to make that!
I just play!

Thanks for the information on trees! I don't really know much about it. Even though I read a lot about guitars. I guess I need to read more about guitar making.
I found out about a bunch of timber having the same name but no being the same from a friend who makes furniture. he said he learned the hard way. it's not as uncommon as you might think. Trees were named by immigrants because they looked a lot like trees from 'back home'. When they can in fact be entirely different species.

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Twelvebar wrote:
...Trees were named by immigrants because they looked a lot like trees from 'back home'. When they can in fact be entirely different species.


I like that! Sounds reasonable. I love to learn new things! Thanks!

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Goranm wrote:
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...Trees were named by immigrants because they looked a lot like trees from 'back home'. When they can in fact be entirely different species.


I like that! Sounds reasonable. I love to learn new things! Thanks!

Ha - Twelvebar has it entirely.

The wood for both the cap on the body and the neck is English grown "sycamore". But that name means three different trees, depending where you are.

Sycamore in the Bible is a fig, ficus sycomorus.

In North America sycamore is platanus occidentalis - which in Europe is called the "plane tree".

In Europe sycamore is acer pseudoplatanus, which is a type of maple. It is also the wood known as "fiddleback maple", because that is what it has been used for over the last few hundred years.

European sycamore is not native to Britain, having been introduced only about 500 years ago. In fact it seems to originate from Goran's part of the world, and to this day that is where much of the sycamore used in violin making comes from.

Many other names mean different trees depending where you are. Poplar and lime, for example.

"Confused? You will be..." (if anyone remembers that line).

Anyway. Twelvebar said most of that. I just added the Latin so as to sound smarter than I really am... :lol:

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Anyway. Twelvebar said most of that. I just added the Latin so as to sound smarter than HIM. :lol:


there I fixed it for ya' :wink: :wink: :lol:

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That was a hell of a lesson on woods.
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Twelvebar wrote:
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Anyway. Twelvebar said most of that. I just added the Latin so as to sound smarter than HIM. :lol:


there I fixed it for ya' :wink: :wink: :lol:

Well. For once you got something wrong. :wink: :lol: (I doubt I'd win a smartness competition with you...)

And to BN: thankfully there is no exam at the end. :D

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you guys are hilarious......

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I've read this whole build thread over the last couple of nights, and as so many have said it's really amazing the work and detail that has gone into this guitar, top job Ceri! :D cant wait for the next instalment!

I have an old strat copy under the bed, which after seeing this I'm thoroughly inspired to get to work on it!

Cheers, Drew 8)


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tired_guitarist wrote:
I've read this whole build thread over the last couple of nights, and as so many have said it's really amazing the work and detail that has gone into this guitar, top job Ceri! :D cant wait for the next instalment!

I have an old strat copy under the bed, which after seeing this I'm thoroughly inspired to get to work on it!

Cheers, Drew 8)

Hi Drew: that is very nice indeed - thank you so much! :D And completely undeserved credit, in view of the following...

News flash.

I've made a very, very stupid mistake. I'm feeling so silly I just can't bring myself to talk about it at this moment. It ain't fatal, but I can't seem to put it right without sending off to Stewart-MacDonald for one of their expensive "gizmo you'll never need in real life" tools. I've found in the past that items ordered on a Friday usually arrive with me trans-Atlantic on Monday morning.

I'll deal with the issue then, post pictures and admit in the full glare of this Forum what I did. Anyway: the solution might be a learning experience for someone. I know it has been for me...!!! :oops: :oops: :oops:

Still, on the plus side, if I know anything about the folks on this particular thread the suspense element of this will give you all a happy weekend speculating about what piece of total idiocy I've performed... :lol:

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Now I'm off to spend a couple of days kicking myself, and then all shall be revealed.

Exciting, huh? Just when you thought it was all over...

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Is it a trem post out of line?

That would be a very silly mistake for you to make at this juncture. Especially given your knowledge on setting them.

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Is it a trem post out of line?

That would be a very silly mistake for you to make at this juncture. Especially given your knowledge on setting them.

Nah: more easily fixed than that, thank goodness. (I hope.)

But nearly as stupid! :oops:

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So for this commercial break, we ask the question...

What mistake (damage?) can you make on a nearly finished guitar that would require a specialized luthier tool to repair?

If I formulated that question correctly, then put your thinking caps on. The winner gets....................

Recognition :?
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Admiration from a legion of guitar geeks worldwide :wink:
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