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Wow you too?...cuz this is who I saw as I was walking to the volcano....

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Ya, in Vanuatu they have two tribes, the Big Nambas and the Small Nambas which equates to: Size Does Matter. My Dr Friend said they are wiener wraps! here is what we saw when their last Nov:
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Hi guys. First:
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I just finished wading through 74 pages. I love it. This is by far the most detailed build thread ever. I love that headstock shape!

Your work is awesome,
Scott

Thank you kindly! Always deeply honored by those kinda posts. :) Cheers Scott, and welcome to the Forum.

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Only away for a week... Have a good week, y'all - C

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Oh it will be an excruciating week to say the least Ceri!!!

So. Not really too excruciating after all, I hope? :D
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Thanks C...Over and out!!!!!! Now on to Volcanoes???? 8)

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Bump 8) Where's the volcanoes?

Oh, OK.

I don't actually have much to show, but I have been silently envious of people posting volcano pictures on this thread, so before we continue I'll just show mine, unimpressive though they are.

Spent a week in Sicily. Staying in Syracuse (Siracusa), where some of us might remember Archimedes did his thang, about twenty-five hundred years ago. A week of the best coffee, the best sea food and the prettiest women on the planet. Good:
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(BTW, contrary to what someone said, that is just a Fender polo shirt I am wearing under the sweater. It is not a dog collar: I am not a priest... :lol: )

One day we drove up the coast for a look at Mount Etna. In clear weather they claim you can see it from a hundred kilometres away. Unfortunately, it was in and out of cloud for us. Even from quite close it was largely lost in the haze, as in the background here:
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The mountain sits in a nice national park. As we drove higher the cloud came in and it started to rain, then sleet and finally snow. This is "base camp", as high as you can go by road:
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And that pretty much sums up the weather we had up there. It had just stopped snowing for a moment in that pic; the peak nearly lost in mist.

I've seen photos of those buildings surrounded by lava and that encampment has been destroyed more than once. All that rock you see is lava which has arrived in the last dozen years. Sadly, Etna is quiet at the moment and there is no smoke, fire, lava or "bombes" to be seen at present. Very frustrated by that: friends of mine were here a few years ago and were able to walk on a crusted over lava flow that was still moving.

Here's the summit. You can just see the line of cable cars that run up there:
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The cloud cleared for a moment for that pic, and then closed in again. Not much to be seen at the top in thick fog. How annoying.

If I wasn't here to say so you wouldn't know that was a volcano, would you? Could be any old mountain. Here's a lava field instead. As you drive along the road is frequently carved through a recent lava flow:
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Looking steeply back down from near the summit you see we're way above most of the clouds. I believe the peak is 3329 metres / 10,992 feet:
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Anyway. Very nice driving round the national park. Narrow empty roads with steep drops on one side and many exciting hairpin bends. If anyone remembers the (original 1960s) Michael Caine film, The Italian Job, it was a lot like the opening sequence. We hummed that Matt Monroe song at the tops of our voices as our wheels skidded along the edge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpq1_AphUSY

(Most of the rest of the time driving in Italy is like the opening sequence in Quantum of Solace. Not for the faint hearted...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v391EU1CXU

Yep, that's pretty much what it's like crossing Palermo in the rush hour...)

Lots of stuff like this to be seen. This is an extinct caldera, and there is another cone further away, far left:
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And here's a pretty picture looking back up "La Montagna". The peak of Etna is briefly visible at the top. Maybe you can just get a hint of the crater:
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There ya go. No lava to be found, so I couldn't throw the Pyrocaster in. Instead I brought it home again and shall continue work shortly...

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Welcome back Ceri!
I love the pics from your trip thanks for sharing.

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I love the pics from your trip thanks for sharing. -Tagg


+1 Ditto!

Ceri says he's not a priest? Then why publish pictorial proof? :lol:

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Ceri says he's not a priest? Then why publish pictorial proof? :lol:
High priest of artistic restorations! Building your own neck is a miracle to me!

Well, we all, who are "informed" know the real reason. It was another covert operation as inconspicuous undercover agent...why else Sicily. :roll:

Hope you get back "safe" Mr C.......and look forward to some "surreptitious" neck finishing... :wink:

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YAAAAY Heeeeee's Baaaaaack!

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Hi Trauma: I missed your pic from the top of the page. Why is it deleted - was it naughty? :D

Anyway. I believe we'd just finished radiusing the fingerboard of that neck:
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Seems a pity to mar that nice smooth wood. Let's do it.

Here's a tool that makes cutting frets slots SO much easier. Stew-Mac's mitre/miter box and fret saw:
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Many here know it, but for those who don't... The saw blade is 0.23" wide to cut a slot that exactly fits Stew-Mac's fret wire tang. (Sheffield steel, I notice. Good.) There is no "set" to the teeth on the blade - in other words, they don't stick out either side of the blade like on a regular saw. So it will only cut to the thickness of the blade itself. Obviously, the saw runs between the brass guides and cuts at a precise right-angle each time. More usefully, that kit works in conjunction with Stew-Mac's Fret Scale Templates. Like this one:
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That template has notches along each side which are spaced for the frets on a 25.5" Fender scale length on one edge; a 25" PRS/Danelectro/etc scale on the other. Obviously, you can buy other templates with different scale lengths too. There is a tiny indexing pin on the inside of the mitre box which you can just see to the right of the saw slot in this pic:
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That pin engages with the notches of the template when it is laid flat on the bed of the box, like this:
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So that you can stick a fingerboard to the template with double sided tape and then just run the template up and down the mitre box and each notch will position it correctly for the fret slots:
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(Hard to make out, but that's a nice birdseye maple fingerboard blank I happen to have handy. Perhaps we'll see it again on a future thread...)

Of course, it would be perfectly possible to use an ordinary old fashioned carpenter/frame maker's mitre saw, like this one of mine:
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That's much cheaper - but there are several problems. You'd have to source a blade of the right thickness, which might not be easy. You'd also need to grind the set off the teeth, which would be tiresome. More significantly, I've never come across a mitre saw that cuts quite as accurately as you might like: there is always a degree of play in the mechanism. And of course it wouldn't work with the notched template, so you'd have to mark up the fingerboard yourself and cut very accurately to your lines.

Perfectly reasonable, but not so straightforward.

People also rig up electric mitre cutters to do frets. That's even more complicated: you'd need to be making plenty of necks to justify the effort. Let's stick with the Stew-Mac rig.

However, there is a problem. This outfit was designed for slotting fingerboard blanks. Nobody thought to make it work with one-piece necks, like we're making here. The problem is the sides are too close and conflict with the headstock, meaning you can't run the neck right into position to cut the lowest fret slots:
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From another angle:
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That seems seriously annoying and unnecessary. It only needs to be a bit wider to remove the issue. I guess I could get a new metal bed made for it, and rig it so that the template still worked with it... But for now there is an easier if slightly homespun solution. I just mount the neck on a small plank of wood to lift the headstock clear of those irritating sides:
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And again, another angle:
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I have inked a line onto the saw to show exactly how deep to cut each slot for my fretwire. You can hopefully just see it in this shot:
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By cutting exactly at a tangent to the radius of the fingerboard all the way across I can make the bottom of the slot curve to match, so it doesn't need to be deeper in the middle than necessary. This is one advantage to cutting the slots after radiusing the 'board.

So now we just start at one end and get sawing. As each slot is cut we move the template down to the next notch to find the position of the next fret slot. No tedious calculations and marking up necessary. I love it! It even gives you a double cut for the nut (though slightly under-spaced, which seems a little unnecessary):
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Strangely hypnotic and calming cutting fret slots. When we're all done it looks like this:
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You might remember that I had an unavoidable pin-knot in this piece of wood, but aimed to position it so that it would be lost in the nut slot. That seems to have worked:
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Now. Before we add the frets there is a little check that needs to be made at this stage.

(I've given up trying to photograph the red of this body. I'll make a supreme effort to learn from all the advice I've been given and take decent pics when the instrument is finished. For now, once again this is not remotely what the red and the grain seen through it actually look like. Those wondering what the heck I'm on about check about 150 pages back in this thread for my bizarre problems photographing the color red... :roll: ):
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We just need to see how the heel fits in the neck pocket. The 22nd fret overhang makes it hard to show you, so take my word that it is a really good fit! No "mouse-ears" here, thank you very much... 8)

But. It is in fact too good a fit. It is so snug that when we put some lacquer on the neck it might actually be too tight to go in smoothly. So we just need to take the opportunity to carefully sand either side of the neck back a few thou along its length, to make room for the lacquer to come. Which obviously needs to be done before there are fret ends in the way.

Another thing we need to do before the frets arrive is add some dot position markers. You'll not be surprised to hear I have a little Ceri twist up my sleeve for doing that particular job. :wink:

However, it has to wait for later. Time for drinks, everyone! :D

Tomorrow - C


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You make this look soooo easy.....but then I realize that if the saw was in my hand, well, so much for perfect frets on that board. Guess I will stick to wiring! Great job, once again Mr. C. Thanks for the picts and the time invested to share with us!

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Xhefri wrote:
You make this look soooo easy.....but then I realize that if the saw was in my hand, well, so much for perfect frets on that board. Guess I will stick to wiring! Great job, once again Mr. C. Thanks for the picts and the time invested to share with us!

Hi Xhefri: I keep thinking, one slip at any stage and I can wreck this job and have to start over. Man, I'll look silly then!

It's that seat-of-the-pants adrenalin that's making it exciting at this end... :lol:

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Another great installment. Thank you, Ceri!!

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Nicely done Ceri.

remember when I said your headstock reminded me of something. Well, I feel the fool, for being flumoxed. It's been hanging in my spare room for a while now, waiting for me to get around to fixing it. granted i don't go in there often, and the door is shut to keep the cat out of stuff, but here's an old shot of it on the couch...

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My mid '60's Teisco similar shape, but with funky 4 and 2 tuner placement.It has a slight backward angle to it too, I left my camera at a friend's place, so you'll have to wait for a side shot.[/img]

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If I set fire to another one can you make me one? In exacty that wine red shade showing in the picture.

I'm just imagining a pale maple lefthanded clapton neck on that colour body.

The Clap can stick his gregarious silver limited edition where the sun dont shine (Grimsby), thats the colour to have.

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If I set fire to another one can you make me one? In exacty that wine red shade showing in the picture.

Aah but does Pastor Ceri have enough left to do another Sacramental Wine Burst?

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