Has anyone else got into a brainspin with their 2 pole tremelo string detune, and wondered about these questions, or perhaps even solved the problem....?

Why do I have to dive the trem to regain pitch of that string I just bent?

Why is this allowed to happen with a relatively new a profesional product?

Where is the design flaw?

How many others have tried to search a solution without resolution?

How much is Fender going to hit me for a product that will fix their product?

I have 2 strats with 2 pole trems. They both detune when a string is bent on the neck, by up to 1/4 tone, all strings detune to varying degrees when bent, particularly the G & B

I have tested other Fender Strats off the shelf in shops with the 2 pole trem and all I tried have the same detune problem when a string is bent on the fretboard.

I am lucky enough to have an early PRS single coil (Hot Noiseless now) that has a beautiful, faultless trem to compare what a trem should be.

So all you Fender Strat Freaks, I want to join you in a solution here.

From what you have brought up, I think you should look at a Hipshot Tremsetter, or stretch your strings before you play them.

http://store.hipshotproducts.com/cart.p ... tail&p=115



also, check out this video, I think this addresses the problems you are having and details how to install the trem setter and also how it eliminates strings detuning when one string is bent:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 616357700#

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From what you have brought up, I think you should look at a Hipshot Tremsetter, or stretch your strings before you play them.

http://store.hipshotproducts.com/cart.p ... tail&p=115



also, check out this video, I think this addresses the problems you are having and details how to install the trem setter and also how it eliminates strings detuning when one string is bent:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 616357700#[/quote]

I have read posts here before about the hipshot tremsetter, and the general concenses was they generate an odd clicking, or notched feeling in the trem action. I would check the nut and saddles for binding, and start from there.
I will have a looksie to see if I can find an older thread on this topic.
J

http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... tremsetter

Hope the link works.
J

I don't have this problem on my Am Dlx. Maybe it's a setup issue. I'm pretty sure Jeff Beck's main guitar has a two-point trem as well, and don't think he would put up with such an issue. Wish I could be of more help. Good luck!

I'd have to go with a setup problem or a stringwind problem. It sounds to me like the string is slipping on the tuner. Very hard to tell without putting a hand on the guitar. I can absolutely guarantee you that good tuning stability is very possible. My guitars set to float never go out of tune. Granted I find it harder to acheive on two point trems than 6 pointers, but its do-able.

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Just a hunch, but take a look at the post adjustment screws. If they aren't set right things could be unstable. They shouldn't be too tight or too loose. They should be just right. See the Fender setup guide for your model at this web site.

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Ditto on this. I think you have a stringwind problem.

I have noticed over the years, a lot of my friends don't really know how to string their guitars. They get defensive when I suggest that may be the problem. But my 2 point Strat, set to float has never had this problem, and theirs tend not to after a good setup and restring.

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I am surprised that no one has asked if you changed string gauges recently. Changing from the stock 9's to a higher gauge will cause the 'non-return to pitch' issue you describe due to binding in the nut slots. Solution is to have the nut properly dressed for your string gauge. This should be done by a competent professional.

Other strings de-tuning during bends is common on all floating trem's, including double locking trem's such as Floyd Rose. This is one reason I set my Strat trem's as "decked" (dive only, no raising pitch, bridge is flat to body). Then by tightening the spring claw screws, and checking with a tuner, I can get enough tension on the bridge to keep the other strings from flattening when I do even double string bends.

These are not issues of faulty manufacturing, and will not be addressed by the manufacturer no matter which company produced your instrument. These are issues of proper setup to individual requirements.


Others here, please feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.

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For setup help you could go here - http://www.fender.com/support
For a guitars build date, try here - http://www.guitardaterproject.org/

Arcaix most nuts are cut to a minimum of .012". I've never seen a .009" nut file. It could well be nut bind, that cant be ruled out but your nut slots are generaly ok till you go up to .013" gauge. If its due to bind its likely muck got in there, or a poorly cut nut. Thats not common on american fenders.

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Arc that's a good point, but that's why i always mention a full set up. Then you take care of all that. I guess the point is, on a properly set up guitar he shouldn't have that issue.

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@nickininja

True, and as I stated, no one asked if he changed gauges, or if so to what gauge.

I have read many of your well-informed posts with great interest, and respect your input.

@Twelvebar

Agreed, but the OP is blaming FMIC, when proper setup is the owners responsibility, also have much respect for your informative posts, thank you.

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For setup help you could go here - http://www.fender.com/support
For a guitars build date, try here - http://www.guitardaterproject.org/

That's right. I have a 0.010" which is the smallest Stew-Mac do (I just checked). It bends like paper!

Cheers - C

As an afterthought, OP did not say what model or year the guitar is. Could binding at string trees be a possibilty?

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For a guitars build date, try here - http://www.guitardaterproject.org/

Yeah it could, but i doubt it would be the complete cause of a 1/4tone slip. I presumed the guitar to be a USA fender as its a 2point trem. Thats a un-guaranteed assumption though. It could well be a classic player with a low set butterfly tree. I have to agree that the OP seems to want to bash fmic when indeed good setup is solely the responsibility of the owner. I for one would love to see a good picture of the nut up to the highE tuner. I'm 99% certain the problem is at that end.

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