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im in a band and we play the local bars and stuff so what wattage would you recommend :?:


40 t0 6o watt tube amp like a Fender Blues Deluxe(40 watts).
Also Marshall,Vox,Orange,Peavy,Hiwatt,Mesa Boogie and many more.


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Tube saturation is when the tubes in the amp, which produce the sounds and amplify them, begin to be pushed to greater limits and hense begin to clip (make that distortion sound we all know and love). The smaller the wattage the the lower level of volume is needed before the threshold is reached and hense distortion occurs. That is why sometimes it is better (if you're really looking for a distorted sound to push a small wattage amp as opposed to one with more wattage.)


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thegigman0 wrote:
im in a band and we play the local bars and stuff so what wattage would you recommend :?:


40 t0 6o watt tube amp like a Fender Blues Deluxe(40 watts).
Also Marshall,Vox,Orange,Peavy,Hiwatt,Mesa Boogie and many more.


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I have a Fender 60 watt, all tube, US made, non-reissue Blues Deville 212. It''s all that I've looked for in a tube amp, and probably a little louder than I need it to be.

The type of music that you play in your band will also help to narrow down the amp choices-
solid state- lacks warmth but is very tonally even and has tremendous headroom (how loud you can turn it up clean before it starts to get distorted). Often favored by jazz musicians, and some metal musicians (Dimebag used a ss Randall most of his career)
Blues musicians often use vintage style amps that don't have the crushing gain that "newer" type amps have. Fenders, older Marshalls, Voxes.
Hard rockers and metal type players often prefer high gain tube amps, which have special circuitry that pushes the gain and distorted sound, much more than a Fender amp. Many newer Marshall amps, Krank, Mesa, and others have very high gain and are poplular with musicians needing more "dirt" and "edge."

But as has already been written, 40 watts should be plenty loud enough to fill a bar. You can always mic the amp and mix that signal into the PA if you need more, too. Go to Guitar Center with YOUR guitar (all guitars sound different in different amps), try out vintage style, high gain, even some solid state or hybrid/modeling amps (Line 6). At the end of the day, it's YOUR tone. Own it.


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the band im in plays hard southern rock; but i like hard rock and early metal
(sabbath, madian, priest) :twisted:

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the band im in plays hard southern rock; but i like hard rock and early metal
(sabbath, madian, priest) :twisted:


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which one theres so many :shock:

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thegigman0 wrote:
which one theres so many :shock:


A 40/60 watt tube amp, depends on your budged wich one.
Keep it simple, 2 channel no digital effects, just a good clean and a killer
solo channel. A combo with one or two 12'' speakers is easy to handle.


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thanks
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I've got a Blues Junior, black tolex, that is really great with my Highway One SSS from low loudness up to really loud. With the Highway One tone knobs on about 4, it does a fat blues tone (mid 11, bass 8, treble 5 1/2, reverb 6, preamp volume at 9, master at 2-2 1/2 on up, fat switch on or off depending on tone needed and usually on). This amp has plenty of natural tube distortion and responsiveness. It's not like the solid state stuff I played before. Turn up the Strat tone knobs to 10 to get that Strat sound instead of the humbucker-like sound of the 4s and you start to get some beautiful bite and sharpness on bends. Nothing else like it. Freaking fantastic stuff! Forget the solid state and that stuff. It's not the same at all. It's junk in comparison. I wish I'd gone with a Blues Junior 8 years ago. I mean, you're bending on fret 7 and playing a blues scale in "A" between frets 5, 7 and 8. On a solid state, it's okay. I mean, you've got a tone and a note and it's there. You step up to the all-tube Blues Junior and when you bend the g string on fret 7 its a beautiful thing, giving you that classic Strat bite, like you'd hear from Clapton or Buddy Guy. A unique and excellent kind of tone - glassy.

In terms of loudness, I can't turn the Blues Junior up past 3 with the preamps up at 9 and the fat switch, because it gets very loud, very fast. Maruuk, who knows, says you can mike it through a P.A. for gigs. I'm just a hobbyist.


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I have to admit, in comparing my Blues Junior to solid state, I'm talking about the less expensive stuff. I didn't go for the heavy modeling amps and it's possible that they can replicate the awesome tone that we get from the tubes even in the inexpensive Hot Rod series amps like the lower priced 15 watt Blues Junior. Okay, so I'm not trying to diss everyone who plays solid state and whatnot. I still have my last solid state amp for when I'm changing the tubes every year or two and I'll play it then, and probably give it to one of my kids when they need an amp. I played solid state for many years - but wish now that I'd gone tube a lot quicker. No comparison at all in loudness. 15 watts solid state is a quiet amp. It's a practice amp. The Blues Junior with the same "on paper" 15 watts is hugely loud, but you don't have to be loud to get the great real overdrive response and tone.


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just got a mesa in. stilleto duece unbelieveable amp has a foot switch for playing at 50 watts or a100 watts let alone 2 channels with 3 preamp settings ive just begun to scratch the surface of what this thing will do go to mesa boogie on the web and alot of your qeustions will be answered also the first boogie amp was a fender


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