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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:57 pm
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You can also help your phrasing by singing along with your solo. Sing the notes as you play them. It will also slow you down a little, so you are not worried about how fast you're playing.

I was also given these words of advice, I gladly pass them on to you:

Unless you're paid by the note, there's little reason to play fast.
The guitarists that solo with fewest notes are the very new and the very experienced.

Good luck and keep practicing.


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digby wrote:
You can also help your phrasing by singing along with your solo. Sing the notes as you play them. It will also slow you down a little, so you are not worried about how fast you're playing.

I was also given these words of advice, I gladly pass them on to you:

Unless you're paid by the note, there's little reason to play fast.
The guitarists that solo with fewest notes are the very new and the very experienced.

Good luck and keep practicing.


Yeah, I've done that before :) I think once I get that down I'll be able to do it subconsciously and then the speed thing will come naturally. Thank you.


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Post subject: Re: My phrasing sucks. How do I improve my guitar phrasing?
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:25 pm
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Something has been really frustrating me lately, I've noticed that even with my knowledge of the scales, chords, techniques, etc. I still have the hardest time phrasing :? Every time I play there's such a lack of smoothness. It almost feels like I'm trying to match my playing with the beat rather than with the chords and the music and even though I know my way around the fretboard I still make mistakes, or I don't end up hitting the note I want to hit, or I hit the note and it doesn't end up sounding right 'cause I messed up on the attack. Ughhh I guess this is the thing that takes a lifetime to master. I can write a solo, I can improvise, but my phrasing sucks. I don't know how to improve it, and what's difficult is actually teaching it because it's such an individual thing the way we play. It's possible that maybe I wasn't used to the key I was playing in. I usually play in Em and Am with a kind of blues progression. I was practicing my phrasing in D minor and it was more Santana-like, but still I just don't get it. How do I improve my phrasing? I know about listening to good phrasing B.B King, Clapton, Gilmour, etc. I know about having breath between notes. I know theory, or at least a decent amount. My ears are better now that it's been 3 years. What I want to know is what can I do physically? How much breath should there be between notes? When do I play fast or slow? How do I avoid mistakes? I want to learn how to make my improvisations flow rather than sound forced. Sometimes it gets very SRV, even though it should be more smoother and less intense. Idk, any info will help. Thank you.


Hi. All the posts offered you some quality help. However, the one thing that may be missing is your ability to really "feel" the music when playing. Many guitar players have their phrasing really pick up after they've been playing for a while, and while playing an emotional type of music like the blues. If you hang in there, it should come to you...although some people never develop any kind of feeling to their playing, and will just sound kind of bland as a result.


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[quote="Screamin' Armadillo

Santana: " but if you've ever suffered through reading an interview with him, you know what I mean![/quote]

I do know what you mean. I can't even comment on what I read because I don't know what I read between the cozmic lines of our times and limes...

:P

...but he sure plays great when he's not talking. I guess we should be glad he doesn't sing...because singing is like talking only ...

o.k., I spare you guys any more of my circle-babble. :twisted:


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Blaqdog the last thing you wrote raised an eyebrow. "The speed thing will come." This might be a big part of your problem if you are worrying to much on fitting speed into your playing. The best advice I can offer anyone is to play within your ability.What good is it if you are trying to play something fast just for the sake of playing fast if it dont fit or is going to be sloppy. Great solos do not have to be fast at all-Harrison=Something/Gilmour=Comfortably Numb/Slash=November Rain. All great solos, all about note selection and phrasing.


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straycat113 wrote:
Blaqdog the last thing you wrote raised an eyebrow. "The speed thing will come." This might be a big part of your problem if you are worrying to much on fitting speed into your playing. The best advice I can offer anyone is to play within your ability.What good is it if you are trying to play something fast just for the sake of playing fast if it dont fit or is going to be sloppy. Great solos do not have to be fast at all-Harrison=Something/Gilmour=Comfortably Numb/Slash=November Rain. All great solos, all about note selection and phrasing.


Oh, I'm not worried about speed. However, I'd still like to be able to play "fast" on command even though it's not naturally how I play. It's more for convenience than it is for actual use. Like, I'd rather play one note than sweep pick several notes, but I'd still like to know how to do it and do it well lol


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Sounds like you've got 'over-eager' syndrome. Try playing less... ie. slow down, play fewer notes (less is more), allow more space for what you play to 'breath'. And RELAX a bit... you're posts are so full of energy, I suspect you're a 'million-miles-an-hour' guy. Don't be so competitive with yourself – there's enough people in life making things hard on you... you don't have to be one of them.

End of amateur psychology lecture for the day! :wink:


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Post subject: Phrasing........
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:51 pm
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What's "phrasing"?

One thing you musn't do in guitar playing, is over-think.....

just play, and play alot.....cop feel, not riffs.....and I agree with another poster....play with a bass guy and a good drummer....


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