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Post subject: Re: I am convinced
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:37 am
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maxoom wrote:
The back trem area cover sucks tone and dampens the free moving vibrations of the body.

I also prefer a 6 digit serial #, a 5 digit serial # just doesn't resonate as well. :wink:


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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:22 am
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That's why I love hardtails, no worries at all about trem covers. Plus it looks fantastic.


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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:53 am
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Despite my sizeable wooly girth, I leave the backplate on. I find it adds mass to the body improving its woody tone and takes some of the high end zing out of the equation. Its also a great place to store extra plectrums if you dont like jamming them under the sctratchplate.

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Yah...well....there is a lot of science emerging suggesting that guitars played in front of fat and hairy bellies sounds dampened compared to guitars played in front of 6-pack and well-cleaned abs!

The same research clearly demonstrates that those removing tremolo covers tend to have softer bellies than those that leave the cover on. It goes on to suggest that fat, hairy guys like warmer and softer tones...sort of more cuddly.

So do you take your trem cover off or leave it on.....tubby?

I can't add to that :lol: :lol: Very fitting statemant :!:

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Once, I took the back plate off and lost the entire guitar.


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Strataholic wrote:
Once, I took the back plate off and lost the entire guitar.
At least you still had the backplate :lol:

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taking the back plate off your guitar is a big no no it affects the balance, so when your swinging it around your body on the strap it comes back round to your front, upside down.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:07 am
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Leave 'em off.

They hide the beauty of the springs.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:16 am
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This is why you leave your tremolo cover off ..For what ever reason you need to make a tremolo adjustment ..You get it done go to check it out and its fine so you keep playing ..Then when done you put your guitar down forgetting about putting the cover back on when you finally remember to put it back on you realize you have lost the screws..So you make a note to get more screws and you never do ..Then you lose the cover and the guitar is sold without the cover..Someone sees it and thinks its cool so he copies..Rinse and repeat...


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robvalentine wrote:

sorry i have a bad mental image of a bloke practicing/playing guitar topless.


Unless tremolo arm is a lady...? Then it would be a rather nice mental image...


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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:31 am
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maxoom wrote:
The back trem area cover sucks tone and dampens the free moving vibrations of the body.


My issues with the '58 Strat I owned was relative to string changing which, I believe is the reason why later models eliminated the individual holes in the plate in favor of a full cut out.

The influence of a piece of plastic seems negligble. What would be more relevant is the amount of body wood routed for the trem system vs the hardtail. Despite the blocked trem, Clapton maintained that the trem system lent something to the tone of a Stratocaster.

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Post subject: Re: I am convinced
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:41 am
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maxoom wrote:
The back trem area cover sucks tone and dampens the free moving vibrations of the body.


It's amazing how some of the silliest threads tend to take off around here sometimes. Weird...very weird.


Regardless, -if- there is a difference at all, it's something that is only going to be measured with extremely sensitive electronic equipment....not the human ear. Personally I leave the covers off on the Strats I play the most for one simple reason...makes doing string changes and adjustments just a little bit easier. Saves one step in the process with those instruments that I play frequently...nothing more.

It's like so many of the other highly subjective issues with guitars...you think you hear a difference so that's what you believe.



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Yah...well....there is a lot of science emerging suggesting that guitars played in front of fat and hairy bellies sounds dampened compared to guitars played in front of 6-pack and well-cleaned abs!


BB King might have a thing or two to say about that :-). What about Randy Bachman? Elvis was getting "pretty thick" there towards the end. I think Jerry Garcia was getting pretty big there towards the end too....

Personally I always thought a bigger torso rather added to the sound...a larger "sound board" if you will. Much more resonance! LOL!!!


"Well cleaned abs"??? What do you use...Nare? Wax (ouch!)? Weed whacker? Yikes I say, YIKES!



Like I said...a very silly thread.

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Post subject: Re: I am convinced
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:05 am
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zzdoc wrote:
Clapton maintained that the trem system lent something to the tone of a Stratocaster.


Now theres something in that. The difference in sound between my hotrod and custom classic is astounding. The hotrod has a vintage trem, the custom classic has a two point trem. Both guitars have the same pickups except the bridge pickup. I can only attribute the difference to the trem.

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