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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:17 am
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paisley strat wrote:
Flying V....YES. This Strat basterd....NO! And I love Gibsons!!

same here!

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Martian I was looking for a post from you to see what you thought about this sham.lol OK now I know I am not cracking up here as a few other people who I usually respect there opinion have me baffled as not seeing anything wrong with this. Gibson could of came out with a Flying V or SG and have some validity to there claim but doing a strat model just makes them lose a lot of credabilaty .Niki hit it pretty much on the head when he said they are making it seem as if the other side was right all along.


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straycat113 wrote:
Martian I was looking for a post from you to see what you thought about this sham.lol OK now I know I am not cracking up here as a few other people who I usually respect there opinion have me baffled as not seeing anything wrong with this. Gibson could of came out with a Flying V or SG and have some validity to there claim but doing a strat model just makes them lose a lot of credabilaty .Niki hit it pretty much on the head when he said they are making it seem as if the other side was right all along.


Well, as we all know, Gibson has priced themselves out of every average working person's budget and with the economy still however it is, they are obviously desperate. In terms of the 'big picture', Fender, to their credit, has always worked with the player. Now Gibson, insisting on their standing philosophy of exorbitant profit margins per instrument, has not "gotten the memo" that they cannot 'reinvent' a late 60s Fender Stratocaster nor through some come along relative of Hendrix', proclaim that this would be his Hendrix' new signature guitar if he were alive today. This is preposterous on every level. Evidently, Gibson is still trying to bag that one, "big payoff" and frankly, I have a feeling that like it or not, if they change their philosophy sooner than later, they are going to tank sooner than later.

I'll never forget, back in the late 60s/early 70s, an outstanding guitar player friend of mine revered Gibson SGs as the ONLY guitar on the planet worth playing. He wouldn't even deviate from the OEM strings because he said that Gibson built the guitar and they matched the strings to it so the OEM 12s, "by necessity" had to be the best for it. Now check this out: He couldn't stand the OEM pickups but thought to remove them would take the 'magic' out of the SG. So, he lowered them into the guitar and literally masking taped and entire Ric 360 pickup assembly, complete with pots and output jack to the top of the guitar and proceeded to play many a gig like this as he thought those, "Toaster Pickups" were the greatest thing since sliced bread. My point: I learned back then that it is the individual player who has to be happy and no matter how absurd or bizarre their requirements, well, he or she's the one who has to play and be satisfied with the guitar and no one else, regardless if it defies any and all logic.

In the same vein, to this day, I'll NEVER understand why someone desires or desires to create a 'signature' type guitar. The ONLY two justifications in my mind are: 1) By sheer coincidence, whomever's signature guitar just happens to be identical to what the player does or doesn't want in their guitar or: 2) The given player has resolved him or herself to just be a lesser imitation of whomever the artist is, never aspiring to anything on their own, which is kind of sad, really.

FWIW, I'd be absolutely mortified to play this new Gibson Hendrix toy in front of even a mirror!

My disclaimer: As always, the aforementioned is merely IMO, YMMV.

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straycat113 wrote:
Martian I was looking for a post from you to see what you thought about this sham.lol OK now I know I am not cracking up here as a few other people who I usually respect there opinion have me baffled as not seeing anything wrong with this. Gibson could of came out with a Flying V or SG and have some validity to there claim but doing a strat model just makes them lose a lot of credabilaty .Niki hit it pretty much on the head when he said they are making it seem as if the other side was right all along.


Exactly!

My point is how do we no if Fender was asked about this colaboration from Jimi Experience or not. It seem lately that Jimi Hendrix estate and Fender have not been tight for a while now. WHY? I don't kinow so I can not jump to conclusions on it. And to say if Jimi were alive today that he would only play a Fender is rediculas. Thats just something no one could know. You think he would never like a Suhr or a PRS? I could see him playing either because times have change.

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To put Jimi's name to a "Strat" other than a genuine Fender Strat is blasphemy (nothing against Squier, but that would be acceptable either). But I guess the Hendix family/Authentic Hendirx LLC has the right to put his name on anything they think will make them some money and that's fine. But to partner with Fender's #1 competitor as the means to do this is just so WRONG. You can't deny that the Fender name is just as much a part of Jimi's legacy as was the music he played. Going to Gibson to a make a Hendrix Strat-copy is disrespectful to the same legacy they say they want to preserve and celebrate.


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What kind of trem uses that kind of routing?


Looks to me like a Transtrem system.


Steinberger? That makes sense as Gibson owns them.

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What kind of trem uses that kind of routing?


Looks to me like a Transtrem system.


Steinberger? That makes sense as Gibson owns them.


Steinberger did use kahler systems for a while.

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From the routing it looks like a Trans-trem

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I do reserve the right to be wrong though :D

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Whether Jimi might or might not be playing this thing if he were alive is irrelevant. The fact is he didn't play this thing. yet the people who are in control of his likeness and name and Gibson are marketing and selling them in a way that will make it appear,(to the uninitiated, or unaware,) that he did.

I always find it distasteful when people or companies try to associate dead people with products or services they never had any kind of involvement with.

This is as distasteful as Fred Astaire dancing with a vacuum cleaner.

Janie and Gibson could have cleaned up with some SG and/or V models. Instead the resort to flim-flammery. These guitars with pictures of hendrix and his Strat on the box. Both parties show a decided lack of respect for the artist they are exploiting for commercial gain. Given the nature of the guitar players i know, this can do nothing but hurt Gibsons reputation.

They are a company that relies on history, and reputation to sell their guitars. now they will appear opportunistic and crass.

I have no problem with Gibson making a bolt on strat shaped guitar, but I have a big problem with them bait and switching on the back of a dead man.

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I don't know if anybody noticed but Gibson has removed the "Experience Hendrix" line from their products section.

Gee, I wonder why? :?

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flanker35 wrote:
I don't know if anybody noticed but Gibson has removed the "Experience Hendrix" line from their products section.

Gee, I wonder why? :?


lol i just noticed that. :P


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A production model lasting less than 48hours. Thats gotta be a record. Bet they become collectable if gibson have dropped em. The odd one or two that got out will sell for a fair old whack.

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hehe, Gibson was taking way more heat from their own community than anything being said here. I doubt it stops production in any way, but they might just set up a separate site to market it.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:50 pm
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Needless to say I'm mortified over this ghoulish cheap scheme to rip off the dead.I stated my feelings elsewhere in the Forum but if you want to share your sentiments with Janie hendrix email:service@jimihendrix.com I'm sure she'll be getting lots of reading done.

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