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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:38 pm
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I hope ppl realize this is not the first strat knockoff Gibson did. They had THIS:


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If that isn't a strat knockoff made by Gibson, then I don't know what is.


Looks like an Epiphone to me. Different companies, pal.



do you honestly not know who owns and operates Epiphone? REALLY?

Gibson owns Epiphone. Gibson also sold this in their US line with a Gibson neck logo as the MR-2.

Same companies, pal.

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I think its a joke that people think this is such a teribble thing. Just look at how many companies make guitars with strat bodies and there own head stocks. They are not all cheap knock offs either.
A few questions!

So who's complaning and owns one? How does the quility compare to the price of what 250.00 to 400.00 for the different packages? It does not look like they are putting the Gibson name on it so are they building it in colaboration with Hendrix Experience?
I also wonder if the would be so much outcry if it were a G&L Hendrix Strat?


I think there are 2 things going on here. First of all, Jimi Hendrix did play several Gibson models ... most famously his Flying V, but he would also play SGs and Les Pauls ... so Gibson could have made a commemorative Hendrix Flying V, or even SG model ... but instead chose to make what is essentially a Strat rip off ... and sure, lots of folks make them, but not with Jimi Hendrix's name on them. The second thing is that, Gibson ordered PRS to "cease and desist" their production of the Singlecut, due to it's resemblance of a Les Paul, until, after spending I'm sure millions of dollars, PRS won in court. Sort of Hypocritical, isn't it? To force one company to stop making a product due to it's similarity to one of yours, and within a few years turn around and do the same thing yourself?

About G&L ... who knows. I would assume that since G&L was founded by 2 of the fathers of the Strat, if they had made a deal with Authentic Hendrix to come out with a Hendrix "strat" type guitar that people wouldn't be all that upset about it, and understandably so.

And Fender did the same thing as Gibson did to PRS about the Stratocaster body and lost in court a while back and it was upheld in appeals court.
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FENDER MUSICAL Instruments' efforts to trademark the body shape outlines of its Stratocaster, Telecaster, and Precision bass models were rejected by the United States Trademark Trial and Appeal Board in a decision handed down on March 25, 2009. The Board concluded that after more than 50 years in the market, the guitar body shapes had become generic because consumers did not solely associate them with the Fender brand.
The decision was the culmination of lengthy legal proceedings that date back to 2003, when Fender initially filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark

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Nothing hypocritical about it. Who knows if fender was approached first to build these I don't and we never will.

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Whats with the price?


There are three models. They are $250 (Little Wing), $333 (Signature), and $450 (Experience).

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cvilleira wrote:
I think its a joke that people think this is such a teribble thing. Just look at how many companies make guitars with strat bodies and there own head stocks. They are not all cheap knock offs either.
A few questions!

So who's complaning and owns one? How does the quility compare to the price of what 250.00 to 400.00 for the different packages? It does not look like they are putting the Gibson name on it so are they building it in colaboration with Hendrix Experience?
I also wonder if the would be so much outcry if it were a G&L Hendrix Strat?


I think there are 2 things going on here. First of all, Jimi Hendrix did play several Gibson models ... most famously his Flying V, but he would also play SGs and Les Pauls ... so Gibson could have made a commemorative Hendrix Flying V, or even SG model ... but instead chose to make what is essentially a Strat rip off ... and sure, lots of folks make them, but not with Jimi Hendrix's name on them. The second thing is that, Gibson ordered PRS to "cease and desist" their production of the Singlecut, due to it's resemblance of a Les Paul, until, after spending I'm sure millions of dollars, PRS won in court. Sort of Hypocritical, isn't it? To force one company to stop making a product due to it's similarity to one of yours, and within a few years turn around and do the same thing yourself?

About G&L ... who knows. I would assume that since G&L was founded by 2 of the fathers of the Strat, if they had made a deal with Authentic Hendrix to come out with a Hendrix "strat" type guitar that people wouldn't be all that upset about it, and understandably so.

And Fender did the same thing as Gibson did to PRS about the Stratocaster body and lost in court a while back and it was upheld in appeals court.
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FENDER MUSICAL Instruments' efforts to trademark the body shape outlines of its Stratocaster, Telecaster, and Precision bass models were rejected by the United States Trademark Trial and Appeal Board in a decision handed down on March 25, 2009. The Board concluded that after more than 50 years in the market, the guitar body shapes had become generic because consumers did not solely associate them with the Fender brand.
The decision was the culmination of lengthy legal proceedings that date back to 2003, when Fender initially filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark

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Nothing hypocritical about it. Who knows if fender was approached first to build these I don't and we never will.


What everyone seems to be overlooking though, is the Janie and Co. and Gibson are using a beloved figure, Jimi, and his likeness to shill out a product he never had anything to do with. they are promoting and selling what many consider to be a fraud.

This is just as bad as Fred Astaire and the Dirt Devil vacuum cleaner ads.

the packaging for these new models will have a picture of jimi with a stratocaster, conveniently with the headstock not shown. All making it look to the unwary that he is playing what is in the box.
This reeks of crass barrel bottom scraping. Gibson as a respected and revered company should be above this.

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I guess Janie never watched her big brother play his guitar. They have each and every detail of the guitar wrong! I could carve a better guitar out of balsa wood! What a cryin' shame. Jimi would shutter if he saw this... lets' hope where he is he can't... this guitar is an embarrassment!


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This picture interests me.....looks like this model will have the standard SG type neck/body join. I think this would be very comfortable compared to the standard Fender type join, having no big body block under the end of the neck.

I know this goes against the design criteria of the strat, mainly that a bolt on neck is easier to manufacture and repair, but I love my SG for the neck/body join and upper fret access. But I love my Strat for the SOUND.

If Fender made a strat with a neck extension past the last fret which fitted into the neck pocket, making the last fret end at the body I would be in heaven.

Just an idea, don't flame me :)


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I'd consider a Gibson if they had a 25.5" scale.


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What kind of trem uses that kind of routing?

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This picture interests me.....looks like this model will have the standard SG type neck/body join. I think this would be very comfortable compared to the standard Fender type join, having no big body block under the end of the neck.

I know this goes against the design criteria of the strat, mainly that a bolt on neck is easier to manufacture and repair, but I love my SG for the neck/body join and upper fret access. But I love my Strat for the SOUND.

If Fender made a strat with a neck extension past the last fret which fitted into the neck pocket, making the last fret end at the body I would be in heaven.

Just an idea, don't flame me :)

If you go to Gibson's web site they are selling the Jimi Hendrix as a seperate brand. Its not listed under Gibson styles but under brands where it says Gibson USA, Gibson Custom, Epiphone and then it says Jimi Hendrix.
That one in the pic looks to be a set neck and looks nice. Wonder what that is?

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That one in the pic looks to be a set neck and looks nice. Wonder what that is?


It is supposedly the Gibson factory version of the Jimmi Hendrix guitar. I would be interested in it if made by Fender with all Fender components. basically a strat with a set neck and easier fret access.


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What kind of trem uses that kind of routing?

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Looks to me like a Transtrem system.

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Looks to me like a Transtrem system.


Maybe a kahler variation. Didnt Gibson own kahler for awhile?
This isnt even good business sense, is it. Fender could probuce a range of oly white 70's strats next week, call em 'Foxey'or some other name closely associated but not infringing. Have had gibson do all the leg work in drumming up interest and out sell the thing, no sweat.

I personaly want to see fender make a single cutaway carved top called the 'leg pull'. I reckon that would be a classy inclusion to the catalogue.

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foorgive me if i'm wrong, but if they are trying to copy jimi's strat, then they have failed. only the headstock is upside down, so surely this is more a copy of a reverse headstocked strat, that jimi's?

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What a disgrace! FWIW, I doubt VERY Strongly JMH would authorize, let alone play that guitar if he was alive today.

Anyone who wants a "real" Hendrix type guitar should simply buy a late 60s Fender Strat or some form of RI of same.

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Martian I was looking for a post from you to see what you thought about this sham.lol OK now I know I am not cracking up here as a few other people who I usually respect there opinion have me baffled as not seeing anything wrong with this. Gibson could of came out with a Flying V or SG and have some validity to there claim but doing a strat model just makes them lose a lot of credabilaty .Niki hit it pretty much on the head when he said they are making it seem as if the other side was right all along.


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