Agreed...dead horse....just to be clear on one or two things. Please don't quote what I said unless I actually said it. You will not find anywhere that I said "they sound better" or anywhere that I said "they cost more" as for Planet Waves "they now offer" lifetime warranty....Monster always has. As far as my collection, or my sons Breklee experience, which you seem to have a problem with, they only reinforce the fact that we regularly use guitar cables.

I apologize for inspiring you to put words in my mouth, and really in 40 years of playing with many musicians, I have never met even one that makes his own guitar cables. You yourself say that 1/2 the ones you know do.

I would like to actually ask you a tech question, seriously as to why some instrument cables are "directional" ...(one end to the amp the other to the guitar) and some are not. No kidding...real question

Actually since i had a hot wire come off a jacksocket at soundcheck in edingburgh and had to scrounge the support bands guitar (some 5 years ago) I carry a soldering iron and solder too on a good day.

JRomanov you implied the sound statement in your american deluxe/ carvin statement.

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Thanks for jumping in....All that I ever said was that if you buy Monster cables, you will NEVER have to buy another cable. This is an indisputable fact! I don't care how much cables cost although there are dozens of manufactures charging considerably more than Monster for their cables.

Chop...on the other hand...ridiculed what I wrote, spoke with a condescending tone, insured everyone that he knew more than I did, and told me not to challenge him to a "spitting contest or I would loose"

Please explain to me how the FACT that if you buy Monster you will NEVER buy another cable can be disputed? It cannot.

After challenging my OPINION with his much greater experience than mine, he then wants to call "dead horse" put words in my mouth, and tell me about soldering irons.

Bottom line....Buy a cable with a LIFETIME UNCONDITIONAL WARRANTY and you will never have to buy one again...period!

Just to clarify I wasn't quoting you, but paraphrasing... and I didn't say more than 1/2 the players I know make their own cables, I said more than 1/2 of them own and can use a soldering iron.

Now, as for directional cables: it depends on which ones you mean.

If you mean the cables that have one end marked as the shielded end, like this PLanet Waves I just got, they say that this provides the quickest path to ground and therefore reduces noise. It sounds like it could be true, but I can't say as I haven't tested it.

The other kind of "directional cable," where the manufacturer claims that the cable is constructed to conduct the flow of the signal in the prper direction to line up with the wire's molecules or something? I'm on the side that says that's bunk. There's no such thing.

Ninja

If you re-read the am del / carvin post you will see that I said I hoped the sound would continue to come out for the whole song...never inferring that any one cable sounded better than any other

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Noodles

I have a few Monster guitar cables, and I own the cheap brand ones as well. IMO, Monster makes some high-quality cables but don't make much of a difference in tone. I oughta try those George L's or those Snap Jacks.

accidental double post here

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I'm not an expert, but I play one on the internet.

I may be in the minority but i am not a fan of monster cables.

I had 3 of em, that i got as gifts. 2 of the three actually crapped out on me during gigs. I don't care if I can replace them for free, because i no longer trust their reliability. I can and have made just as good (or better,0 cables for a fraction of the price.

i wholeheartedly agree with Slapchop here. monster cables are all about marketing, and boogety claims o the packaging that can't really be quantified.

I am reminded of a piece i saw on CBC (maybe on marketplace,) where they tested a bunch of HDMI cables. Of coarse monster is a big player in marketing the high end cables. yet the same quality blind tested cable was a 12 dollar (including shipping, so 5 dollar cable.) HDMI cable from the internet.Same results as a $250+ dollar monster, and one priced right in the middle.
http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2008/02/2 ... _the_deal/

Not a guitar cable, i know, but the same company, and the same claims being made, i can't imagine they treat these products any differently.

The marketing term for selling you a vastly overpriced cable is called "packing the deal." I am of the impression that "you get what you pay for, only if you pay attention, and protect yourself.)

Only a fool would buy Monster cables.

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Ok sir, understood.

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Wow, this careened out of control.

The point of my original post was not to debate the merits of my cable or it's conductivity. In fact, my cable is one of those vintage style tweed wrapped ones and it's been gigged and jammed heavily for 10 years and still works fine. The point was that the rubber type boot that is over the end of the cable (the jack housing and extends about 3 inches down the cable) is melting the nitro on my guitar where it makes contact. So if you have a nitro finish, watch out what your cable is made of (the outside of the cable) as it may react to the paint.

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Toast

We did end up a little off course, although I hope that no one was offended. I personally enjoy the verbal intercourse, find it stimulating, and in general, its healthy for the mind.

Its extraordinarily easy, on the forums, for some reason to find "Mr Know It All" no matter what subject is being discussed. If you have the slightest opinion that differs from theirs, out comes the "spitting challenge" the condescension, the disrespect for anything other than their way.

No offense twords Chop was intended in any of our "debate" and I hope that he is big enough to understand that. He was entertaining to speak with, and I didn't mind him "talking down" to me or discounting everything that I had to say. We wouldn't have even got to enjoy the little bout if he had not "called me out" early in our talk, warning me not to engage in a "spitting contest" with him or "I would loose".

As offensive as this high horse attitude was, we were talking about guitar cables! I couldn't care less about guitar cables, I don't think I have ever had a conversation about guitar cables in my whole life. The entertainment was all in the back and forth. I would have been just as happy taking the "make your cables" stance and letting Chop support the Monster cable side.

So Chop...If you were offended in any way during our exchange...I do apologize for that. I am certainly not the misinformed, no knowledge, uneducated person that you tried to make me out to be.

And Toast...In my OPINION.... I think that you should absolutely buy whatever guitar cable that you like...you might want to look into making cables yourself, you can make good cables for a very reasonable price. Please buy whatever type of guitar, amp, strap, pedal, case, or tuner that you like. No matter what you pick, someone will always have a reason why you should have picked something else.

Have a great day
Noodles

I noticed this morning, after a fun filled day yesterday, that 843 people have read this thread. I hope that it was somewhat more entertaining than usual, and I hope that no one was offended by anything.

I wanted to take a moment to address some of the comments that came out of our conversation about those dreaded Monster Cables, which started quite the ruckus. Sadly...and I do mean Sadly....things like "anyone who buy's them is getting ripped off" "only a fool would buy them" "don't buy into the hype" and generally belittling anyone that would spend 3 times the price of other cables to buy these.

We were all able to fully agree that "Cable is Cable" That being said, I didn't want anyone to buy into the hate hype, or feel like they were "a fool" if they buy Monster. The issue was purely cost to these haters! If you can afford to buy cables from Monster, studio pro's are physically beautiful (remember cable is cable) with white faux mother of pearl ends, 24k gold plugs, they are beautifully wrapped in fabric, never kink or twist up. So if you want to pay 3 times the price (which is not true by the way) don't feel like you have been "ripped off" because you have not.

Fender sells Mastercraft Stratocasters for upward of $5,000.00. Do you think that people who buy these are "fools"? Why don't they just buy cheap Strats. They buy them because they can. I assure you that if we give Eric Johnson a $5,000.00 Strat or a $500.00 Strat, you will never know the difference listening to him play.

People buy $650.000.00 Ferarri's ... are they fools? They could buy Chevy's and still get to the same place. They buy them because they can, and they didn't get "ripped off"

My point is that people should not be ridiculed for buying what they want or what they like. Thankfully we are not bound to only being able to buy what we "need".

So any of you 843 people that might have bought Monster or any other product and have been made to feel like you were "ripped off" or you were a "fool" by reading the banter of these "know it all" haters. You were not...you are not "Fools" and you were not "ripped off".

These "big shots" should be embarrassed by their "oh so holy" comments and apologize for being so very closed minded.

Noodles