I have seen this about ten times and yes Chuck was being a $@!&$ to keiff who put that whole show together for Chuck out of idol worship. Chuck Berry is a very bitter guy but then again who knows what he had to endure through those times of heavy racism and watching everyone get rich ripping him off. As like Vanhalen and probably more so his style was ripped off by everyone. But Chuck was no dummy as he sued a few people. In fact for those who dont know he sued Lennon and McCartney over Come Together which I dont think was merit outside of a few lines lifted from Berry songs Like the line Here Comes ol Flatop. But John Settled with him out of court and when he did his solo album of rock and roll classics 3 of Berrys songs were on it. If you remember Keith says Chuck has punched him in the face on two occasions and he goes on to say I love the guy but next time I will punch back.And as for the comment bye a self imposed genius about the simplicity of this music well 60 years ago Chuck Berry was like hearing Vanhalen in 78 ,and you can attribute just about every double stop riff played through the years no matter how pumped on steroids it is (take Vanhalens solo in Panama )right back to him as he wrote one of the most important chapters in rock history.

I wrote to Chuck Berry 3 years ago but he never wrote back WHYYYYYYYYYY Chuck WHY ? And I also owned the guitar pick of Keith Richards hahaha this is a good Vinny Pop story coming up. I gave away the pick to a father of a little girl who saw me singing in the street....blaaaaa and twaaaaaaaaaa I want my pic back

[quote="straycat113"]who knows what he had to endure through those times of heavy racism and watching everyone get rich ripping him off.[/i[i]]...........not to mention being jailed for violating the Mann Act

....and you can attribute just about every double stop riff played through the right back to him..........and Elmore James

[u]....as he wrote one of the most important chapters in rock history.[/u]..........no argument there...HE is the king of rock and roll

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Attribute every double stop riff to Chuck Berry? Yeah, just as you imagine Eddie V. "invented" tapping. What Chuck was playing was widely-spread Chicago blues, and he didn't even play it especially well. The REAL genius of those records was his piano player Johnnie Johnson, who used his New Orleans-influenced chops to give Chuck's music the propulsion it needed.

Chuck Berry was a remarkable lyricist, a poet of teenage angst, but let's not give him more credit than is due. He did not invent the guitar style he is famous for. He's just the first guy to play it in a context that white kids could hear.

And let me put it this way: you call me out with some kind of insult one more time, and I'll ask Brad to review your post history. I am not in some kind of feud with you, you don't even exist in my consciousness, and it's not my fault that your posts so often need correcting. Step off, junior.

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The REAL genius of those records was his piano player Johnnie Johnson, who used his New Orleans-influenced chops to give Chuck's music the propulsion it needed.[/b][/i]

.....now there's the afterthought which I had, and good for you to have jumped on it. That piano was an intrinsic part of THE sound,(seek out JJ's CD 'Johnny Be Bad") not to mention the fact that it was Johnny's trio that Berry first joined, and then it became Berry's band. The documentary pretty much covers that little wrinkle.

I've heard some out-takes of 'Johnny B. Goode" without that piano, and it is certainly quite a different session.

IMHOP the foremost interpreter of CB's music in this day and age is Dave Edmunds.

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+1 on that, although Edmunds and Rockpile incorporate a bunch of early R&R styles. Tracks On Wax 4 is one of my favorite albums of all times.

But you have to give Berry his due as a lyricist... "C'est La Vie," for example, with this incredible line....

"They finished off an apartment with a two-room Roebuck sale
The coolerator was jammed with TV dinners and ginger ale.."

Sung in that loose, wise-guy style over Johnnie Johnson's impeccable N'arlins roll, it just doesn't get any better.

You got that right. I'm sure Billy Joel knew he was echoing it in "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant:"

"Well, they got an apartment with deep pile carpet and a couple of paintings from Sears...
A big water bed they bought with the bread they'd been savin' for a couple of years...."

Maybe Chuck was just a bit torqued b/c he wasn't working with the Stones and making the bajillions they were/are! Sorry, not to be disrespectful but I'm an old dude and I have no desire to play like CB.

I just wanted to say that this is one of the rare occasions where you see Keith playing a Strat.

Chuck Berry is notoriously hard to work with - and this video would be evidence as to why. I could see him stopping Keith once, maybe twice, but Chuck goes the extra mile to try and belittle Keith in front of the group. Definitely ego at play there.

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Yep!! Got that right! Bands like "The Tumbrills"; "14 July"; "Let 'Em Eat Cake"; "CPS"; "Bastille" and "The Antoinettes". Their smash hit "Going Out Of My Head" was first released. Little Anthony and The Imperials were to do a cover of it about 160 years later.

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Sung in that loose, wise-guy style over Johnnie Johnson's impeccable N'arlins roll, it just doesn't get any better.[/quote]


Two of my favorites: "No Money Down", and "Too Much Monkey Business"

Where else could you find more creative reworking of the English languate than:
"Don't need your botheration....."

Doc

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