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Post subject: Should I make an offer on this?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:49 am
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Nervous about buying used on eBay b/c I don't know much about pickups etc..

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Fender-62-Hot- ... 286.c0.m14


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Post subject: Re: Should I make an offer on this?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:06 am
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BigJay wrote:
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Nervous about buying used on eBay b/c I don't know much about pickups etc..

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Fender-62-Hot- ... 286.c0.m14


I wouldnt, but not because I think there is something wrong with it.

Notice the ad has some bad information. It lists the '62 Hot Rod and, then, lower on the screen describes the guitar as an Eric Johnson Strat. Im sure its just a mistake, though.

But ask yourself what is really unique about that guitar? How different is it from any number of other Strats that you can pay 1/2 as much for? Its basically an American Standard Strat with an alder/nitro cellulose body, 21 frets, some vintage pickups and tuners/hardware.

You could build that guitar yourself for much less money. You could buy countless MIM Vintage series guitars for $500 or less. If you swap the pickups out, you'd have 90% of this guitar for under $600.

That guitar is a marketing gimmick, in my opinion.


I played in a store and every switch position was gorgeous. Do you think I would be able to get a new set of pickups on an American standard and it would sound as nice?

I think the tone controls are wired differently.


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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:17 am
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I also think the seller made a mistake in the listing. The serial begining with V is the one on the guitar. Not the EJ one.
$1600 for a used hotrod is a tad overpriced, their what $2200 new? That one isnt mint. They go for around 2/3rds of new price when mint.

Great guitar that is way more than a AM std.

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Post subject: Re: Should I make an offer on this?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:41 am
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BigJay wrote:
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BigJay wrote:
1962 wrote:
Nervous about buying used on eBay b/c I don't know much about pickups etc..

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Fender-62-Hot- ... 286.c0.m14


I wouldnt, but not because I think there is something wrong with it.

Notice the ad has some bad information. It lists the '62 Hot Rod and, then, lower on the screen describes the guitar as an Eric Johnson Strat. Im sure its just a mistake, though.

But ask yourself what is really unique about that guitar? How different is it from any number of other Strats that you can pay 1/2 as much for? Its basically an American Standard Strat with an alder/nitro cellulose body, 21 frets, some vintage pickups and tuners/hardware.

You could build that guitar yourself for much less money. You could buy countless MIM Vintage series guitars for $500 or less. If you swap the pickups out, you'd have 90% of this guitar for under $600.

That guitar is a marketing gimmick, in my opinion.


I played in a store and every switch position was gorgeous. Do you think I would be able to get a new set of pickups on an American standard and it would sound as nice?

I think the tone controls are wired differently.


You mean youre interested in these pickups?????

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid ... Categories

These tuners???

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=Strato ... &_osacat=0

How about a nitrocellulose body???

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=Strato ... &_osacat=0

How about a vintage bridge?

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=Strato ... &_osacat=0

I havent included a neck in here because you either need to be very specific or just pick one. There are plenty of necks out there for under $300.

So, what did I miss? Pot circuits? Add another $35. Knobs, pickguards, etc? Add another $40.

All in, you can build basically that same guitar for well under $1000.

Get your self a basic "how to" book and a reliable tech and you are way in the money versus that $1700 '62 reissue.


How difficult is it to put all of this together? How do you know you are getting quality in the build of the wooden parts?

I am very intrigued by this and may be willing to give it a shot.

Please advise!


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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:38 am
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BigJay wrote:
I've built one Strat from authentic Fender parts. If you are tool-handy at all, you can easily do it. Its really pretty easy.

There much to learn though. You cant just "slap it together". There is a lot of very minor measuring and tweaking with lots of nuance about it.

But if you buy genuine Fender parts or the "licenced by Fender" products, you will be fine. If you venture into the used parts, you ought to be more careful. But if you buy NOS or new, you will be just fine.

I've said this about 1 million times. I highly recommend guys build at least one Strat. You will learn more about guitars than you ever imagined. Its quite fun. You will save lots of money. You will have exactly the guitar you want. That guitar will be "your" guitar and you will appreciate it much more. It will make you a better player.

There are many very talented, smart and informed guys on these boards. Most of them love talking about this stuff and really enjoy helping guys just like you.


Do you have any tips on sites that explain what to do? I don't even know where to begin when it would come to doing measurements etc....


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Post subject: Re: Should I make an offer on this?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:19 am
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BigJay wrote:
1962 wrote:
Nervous about buying used on eBay b/c I don't know much about pickups etc..

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Fender-62-Hot- ... 286.c0.m14


I wouldnt, but not because I think there is something wrong with it.

Notice the ad has some bad information. It lists the '62 Hot Rod and, then, lower on the screen describes the guitar as an Eric Johnson Strat. Im sure its just a mistake, though.

But ask yourself what is really unique about that guitar? How different is it from any number of other Strats that you can pay 1/2 as much for? Its basically an American Standard Strat with an alder/nitro cellulose body, 21 frets, some vintage pickups and tuners/hardware.

You could build that guitar yourself for much less money. You could buy countless MIM Vintage series guitars for $500 or less. If you swap the pickups out, you'd have 90% of this guitar for under $600.

That guitar is a marketing gimmick, in my opinion.


I don't know which Mexican Strats you are referring to. The Classic Series don't go for $500 or less. Maybe a Standard. Isn't the Hot Rod Strat American? What if he wants American? There are differences between Mexican's and American's. If there is any truth to the idea that American Strats use a higher grade of wood than that is the biggest reason to buy that guitar instead of a Mexican. You can't upgrade wood.


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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:06 am
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i'd think you could put together a Strat with your own specs for much cheaper that would play even better, but thats just me. Seems as if the price is a little stepp, maybe for sentimental value? I'd say look around a little bit more.


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Post subject: Re: Should I make an offer on this?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:38 pm
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357mag wrote:
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1962 wrote:
Nervous about buying used on eBay b/c I don't know much about pickups etc..

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Fender-62-Hot- ... 286.c0.m14


I wouldnt, but not because I think there is something wrong with it.

Notice the ad has some bad information. It lists the '62 Hot Rod and, then, lower on the screen describes the guitar as an Eric Johnson Strat. Im sure its just a mistake, though.

But ask yourself what is really unique about that guitar? How different is it from any number of other Strats that you can pay 1/2 as much for? Its basically an American Standard Strat with an alder/nitro cellulose body, 21 frets, some vintage pickups and tuners/hardware.

You could build that guitar yourself for much less money. You could buy countless MIM Vintage series guitars for $500 or less. If you swap the pickups out, you'd have 90% of this guitar for under $600.

That guitar is a marketing gimmick, in my opinion.


I don't know which Mexican Strats you are referring to. The Classic Series don't go for $500 or less. Maybe a Standard. Isn't the Hot Rod Strat American? What if he wants American? There are differences between Mexican's and American's. If there is any truth to the idea that American Strats use a higher grade of wood than that is the biggest reason to buy that guitar instead of a Mexican. You can't upgrade wood.


I've been playing many different strats recently and none of them have even come close to the great sound and feel of the 62 hot rod. I have a hard time believing I would be able to build one (he is right).

I also have a hard time believing that I can buy a Mexican body and make one that plays as well.

I would love to build a guitar but truthfully, buying the actual axe and getting a good price is probably easier and more worth as a long time buy. I don't think it will lose value (especially if prices keep going up the way they are!).

My 94 American standard is still a great guitar. Lasting a long time means alot to me (and I didn't even baby that one).


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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 pm
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When it comes to buying American Strats on Ebay you're pretty safe. Mexicans might be a bit more hit and miss but probably not by too much. I've bought most of my previous guitars online through places like Musician's Friend and American Musical Supply. There is nothing to worry about. If you don't like it simply send it back.


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