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Post subject: Something about this ad seems sketchy to me...
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:29 pm
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http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-musical-instruments-1956-Fender-Strat-W0QQAdIdZ152273834

Was "natural" even a finish option in 1956?

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:05 pm
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I really am not sure. But he sure as hell would not have me question if it was a 76.


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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:06 pm
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I can't say for sure about the finish, but I was under the impression that particular finish didn't come out until the 70's. And if it did, the fact that they threw in "Texas Special" pickups in it would knock the value way down, and nowhere near what they're asking for it anyway.


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My first reaction to this would be:

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russianracehorse wrote:
My first reaction to this would be:

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:27 pm
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It says it was created from a 56 body ( which if it is ) some bonehead ruined by stripping the original finish. so the only thing of real value is the neck plate and it may be the only original part. It's a partscaster now and only worth a fraction of what he wants. :?


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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:34 pm
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Ok, neck from something else, electronics from something else. Non original finish. Oh and no serial numbers, or documentation.

Unless he can prove the body is what he says it is, I am assuming he can't.
Oh an the line that he won't be forced to sell in a wek? WTH if you aren't forced to sell in a week, then you aren't forced to sell now. this is a bad scam.

STAY AWAY.

I am gonna guess its a warmoth or other company body. It would be a rip-off at $500 bucks.

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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:27 am
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It's a partscaster. Some of the parts may be old. Or not.

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An easy way to see whether that body is worth validating would be to ask for a picture of the plugged nail holes. They used nails to keep the wood on the jig for shaping and routing. Orvilleowner has a collection of plugged nailhole pictures from 50's guitars.

I couldnt see any on zooming in on the pic, it doesnt mean they arent there though.

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I love this :lol: He reckons its a '56- but it has a strat plus neck- and there is something about that back contour that I really cannot put a pin on it... maybe can someone give an opinion? thing is- I don't think its a '56 body either.

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An easy way to see whether that body is worth validating would be to ask for a picture of the plugged nail holes. They used nails to keep the wood on the jig for shaping and routing. Orvilleowner has a collection of plugged nailhole pictures from 50's guitars.

I couldnt see any on zooming in on the pic, it doesnt mean they arent there though.


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http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fender.html#serial

Description: 1956 Fender Stratocaster guitar
Available: 1954 to present.
Collectibility Rating: A
Production: no official (or unofficial) production numbers available.
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The Fender Stratocaster guitar is probably the most popular solidbody electric guitar ever made. Early models (1954 to 1965, known as "pre-CBS" models, since CBS Broadcaster Company bought Fender in January 1965) are the most collectible. Originality and condition are the two most important features of a vintage Fender Stratocaster guitar, and Fender Strats do seem to have been easily modified (due to their "bolt together" nature).

I personally love Ash body Fender Stratocasters, and the 1956 is the last of the Ash body Strats. The change from Ash body to Alder body occured during the summer of 1956, along with the change in the peghead's E/B string retainer from the button style to the "butterfly" clip.

Serial number range for the 56 Fender Stratocaster are generally 9000 to 16000 (on the neck plate). If you need to figure out the exact year of your pre-CBS Fender Stratocaster, use the serial number and the general features of the guitar. The serial number is located on the back metal neck plate.

So according to this- if it is correct- it may be a early to mid '56 body... or a '70s - or at the worst a knock off with an incorrect back contour... if my eyes are correct

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A 70's would show up in the routing wouldnt it? The afore mentioned nail holes.

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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:04 am
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The good fakers know about the nail holes.

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nikininja wrote:
A 70's would show up in the routing wouldnt it? The afore mentioned nail holes.


Yeah it would- but we wouldnt know untill he puts up pics of the cavities...

Some sucker is going to buy this strat and get shafted...

Another thing- I think a genuine seller would have the original neck sitting around willing to throw it in... aswell as the electronics or be able to provide photos that it is genuine. Otherwise- it wouldnt be worth what he wants for it.

And why oh why? would anyone in the right mind would want to strip a '56- even in the '70's when this finish became popular? I say this because the body colour doesnt look that old... maybe thats what Im getting at when I say that theres something I cant put a pin on it.. :?

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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:08 am
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nikininja wrote:
An easy way to see whether that body is worth validating would be to ask for a picture of the plugged nail holes. They used nails to keep the wood on the jig for shaping and routing. Orvilleowner has a collection of plugged nailhole pictures from 50's guitars.

I couldnt see any on zooming in on the pic, it doesnt mean they arent there though.


I think you are thinking about the pin router holes (that get doweled). I can see one on the back (to the right of the neck plate). I don't see the ones on the bottom edges, but those could be hidden in the grain. The top one on the front would be hidden by the pickguard.

http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... hp?t=11703

So it could be a refinished 1956 body, but that's all that's vintage, as mentioned by a previous forum member. I don't know what that body would be worth (it would need to get a decent finish, like a nice see-through blonde).

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