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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:53 am
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Basic filler - plastic wood is good. light carefull sand after.

As for the painting, I always use "Heel Renew" which is one (black) colour fits all. It's designed to touch up scuffed heels on womens shoes. Just use a few light coats to build up the level.

Not perfect but still almost invisible.

Patch it then forget it..


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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:24 pm
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Why all my guitars are in hard shell cases. I've hit the brakes in my truck, many a time, where the case comes sliding off the seat. So far.....no damage at all.

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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:18 am
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yeah first thing I thought too was, "why was the guitar not in a case or at the least a gig bag?" Personally if I know I'm gonna buy a guitar and don't want to buy a case, I bring an empty hardshell case with me to the store.

Some good advice has been posted about repairing the ding, like what was said, Black guitars are pretty easy to hide the dings on.

(though personally I let my guitars battle scars show, but to each their own. I understand some people like their Git-Fiddles to be pristine)

good luck man.


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sounds like a good excuse for a GAS attack :lol:

in all seriousness, hopefully you can fix it up so you're happy with it!


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Post subject: Re: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:02 am
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Howdy folks.

Hoping some of you guys can point me in the right direction.

My frankenpartscaster has a pretty nasty ding behind the bridge. If it wasn’t in such a central and obvious spot I might leave it be and chock it up to age but since it is where it is and this POS strat has a lot of sentimental value, I’d like to take a crack at fixing it. I’ve read a lot of info on “Drop Fill” repairs using superglue so this is looking like what I might try but have a few questions.

Ceri mentions fixing the ding earlier in this thread and I’m wondering if he is referring to another trick I’ve read about where applying heat to the ding with a small wet cloth can actually lift the ding a bit before I touch op the poly.

This is an Ash body that I got about 20 years ago, stained it Forest green and gave it a high gloss poly finish. Its got plenty of other wear on it but this one I’d like to fix. My concern is if I try the heat method, I might make the poly around the ding worse or if the water cant get into the ding… it simply wont work.

Since it’s a dark green stain finish, should I just skip the dent fix and go straight to the drop fill?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. I thought about getting a new Ash body but I just don’t think I can do all that work again especially with the limited time I have these days and I really like the dark green stain look.

My apologies if the above post was pure gibberish.

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Post subject: Re: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:56 am
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As Ceri pointed out, using a filler such as Wood Putty, Plastic Wood or such is the way to go.

You can also make your own using sawdust and glue. Just about any wood glue will work to make this filler. Yellow or white wood glue, hide glue and even epoxy glue (if you can work fast).
Fine saw dust from sanding is ideal, whereas wood shavings would be too large.

There’s no particular formula other than adding a little more of either, until you get the desired consistency. You’ll be looking for a well mixed filler that will be workable enough to shape, but not runny. A dry mixture will not adhere correctly, and too wet a mixture will shrink and need additional filler.

Mask off the surrounding area and roughen the edges of the dent slightly. Take a very small, sharp Brad (small nail) and tap it into the dent gently just to make some small indentations and add a thin layer of glue on the surface just before applying the wood filler. Doing this strengthens the damaged wood and also helps the filler bond well, preventing it from popping out later due to changes in heat/humidity.

Add the filler to the dent with your finger, pressing it in until it is slightly 'proud' of the surface. Be sure to also lightly overlap the edges of the dent (this will make the repair virtually seamless).

Wait 48 hrs. for the filler to setup. Use a 320-400 grade wet sandpaper to sand the filler almost even with the surface. Then switch to a 1200 grade, then a 2000 grade (both wet) until it is flush with the surface.

Wait 24 hrs. before adding paint and topcoat. Wet-sand w/ 2000 grade paper for a smooth finish.

Flattening the finish can be done many ways, including chemically. But using solvents can be tricky in getting an even finish, so I recommend roughing up the surface with a lite duty nylon scouring pad (3M ScotchBrite). Gently and evenly pass the pad over the body until you get the finish you want. This will eventually start to gloss up again where you rub against the guitar (elbow, shirt, etc.), but you can flatten it again using the same method as before.

Good Luck !

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Post subject: Re: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:00 am
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captainc wrote:
Howdy folks.

Hoping some of you guys can point me in the right direction.

My frankenpartscaster has a pretty nasty ding behind the bridge. If it wasn’t in such a central and obvious spot I might leave it be and chock it up to age but since it is where it is and this POS strat has a lot of sentimental value, I’d like to take a crack at fixing it. I’ve read a lot of info on “Drop Fill” repairs using superglue so this is looking like what I might try but have a few questions.

Ceri mentions fixing the ding earlier in this thread and I’m wondering if he is referring to another trick I’ve read about where applying heat to the ding with a small wet cloth can actually lift the ding a bit before I touch op the poly.

This is an Ash body that I got about 20 years ago, stained it Forest green and gave it a high gloss poly finish. Its got plenty of other wear on it but this one I’d like to fix. My concern is if I try the heat method, I might make the poly around the ding worse or if the water cant get into the ding… it simply wont work.

Since it’s a dark green stain finish, should I just skip the dent fix and go straight to the drop fill?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. I thought about getting a new Ash body but I just don’t think I can do all that work again especially with the limited time I have these days and I really like the dark green stain look.

My apologies if the above post was pure gibberish.


If you still have the stain, stain a similar piece of wood and sand it to get some colored sawdust, then make the filler I described and apply it. It should be a very close match.

cheers!

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Post subject: Re: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:33 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:
If you still have the stain, stain a similar piece of wood and sand it to get some colored sawdust, then make the filler I described and apply it. It should be a very close match.

cheers!

Ahhh

Thanks very much for the tip. That sounds way safer than risking heating up the poly at the ding in hopes of lifting it. I don’t have the dye anymore as it was ca. 1994 when I did the work but I used Rit Dye off the shelf and pretty certain I can still get that color.

Thanks much.

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