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Post subject: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:08 am
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I have a little chunk missing out of my Strat. I was transporting it in the Truck home from the shop when I bought it when someone cut in front of me. I had to slam on the brakes and the guitar went flying forward hitting the seat mount (sharp edge) which took a nice little chunk out of her.

Its a little smaller then size of a dime and almost 1/4 down into the wood in the center and 1/8 on the edges.

what can I use to fill this void? Then how to I go about repainting the area?


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I also had another idea. I really want to change the high gloss of the black finish to a flat (no shine at all) type finish. It is an inexpensive Squire so I'm not worried about the destroying value

Can someone please explain the process of how to change the gloss to a flat finish?

The Squire is a 20th Anniv. model. Does it hold anymore value then a regular Squire? I want to use this guitar as a test bed so when I buy my MIM Strat I can change it to a flat finish. So I'd rather learn how to do it on this guitar then on the MIM. (I would never consider something like this on a MIA)


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Post subject: Re: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:24 am
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Hi Scot06: it's black is it? Well then you're in luck.

Paintwise is easy with black. But first, that dent.

I could hazzard a good guess about that, but it would be much better if you could post a nice clear photo or two so that we can be sure what we're dealing with. That way the advice will be spot on.

Howzabout it?

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Post subject: Re: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:43 am
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Ceri wrote:
Hi Scot06: it's black is it? Well then you're in luck.

Paintwise is easy with black. But first, that dent.

I could hazzard a good guess about that, but it would be much better if you could post a nice clear photo or two so that we can be sure what we're dealing with. That way the advice will be spot on.

Howzabout it?

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Let me see if I can take a pic and figure out how to post it on here


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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:06 am
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I've got the pic but I looked into posting it here and since you can not upload it I have no way to post it.


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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:10 am
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You have to upload your pics on a web based site like photobucket.com first then copy and paste here using the img button. Hope that helps. :wink:


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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:13 am
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Scot06 wrote:
how do I post a pic? I don't see a way to upload it. I see the "img" button but it doesn't give me an option to upload it


You need to create a free account at an image hosting site such as www.photobucket.com . Upload your pix there - no bigger than 600 pixels wide, please, or these pages start falling off the edges of the screen.

When you are ready, hover your cursor over one of the photos in your Photobucket album. A drop-down menu will appear with four lines of code in it. Click on the bottom line and copy and paste it into a post here.

That will tell everyone's browser to go off to Photobucket to find that picture and display it in the page.

Couple of minutes' work...

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Post subject: Re: How to repair a Strat with a bad ding?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:42 am
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Scot06 wrote:
I have a little chunk missing out of my Strat. I was transporting it in the Truck home from the shop when I bought it when someone cut in front of me. I had to slam on the brakes and the guitar went flying forward hitting the seat mount (sharp edge) which took a nice little chunk out of her.


Argh, that's a bad break, getting a ding on the way home with it! :(

How do you feel about "relics"?

One cheap option: just hit the bare wood with a black Sharpie and start playing the heck out of it. Don't look back.

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BigJay wrote:
I have an idea......Hows bout investing in a guitar case?

Regarding the ding, maybe somebody could break out that video clip where a guy melted ping-pong balls with nail-polish remover to make a quick/easy patch for chipped finish. Wasnt it a YouTube video?


Jay if it's a Squier, it will be a polyurethane finish. his best bet is to drop fill with CA glue (superglue,) then sand it level.Carefully!!!

Ooh, Niki had the vid iirc. I have a bunch of acetone, the nail polish remover he had was pro stuff, and said 100% acetone. I have to head to the mall, I am gonna pick up some ping pong balls, and give it a whirl.

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:23 pm
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BigJay wrote:
I have an idea......Hows bout investing in a guitar case?

Regarding the ding, maybe somebody could break out that video clip where a guy melted ping-pong balls with nail-polish remover to make a quick/easy patch for chipped finish. Wasnt it a YouTube video?


Jay if it's a Squier, it will be a polyurethane finish. his best bet is to drop fill with CA glue (superglue,) then sand it level.Carefully!!!


Well, if it's a Squier then it's polyester rather than urethane. I was going to suggest the little touch-up kits you can buy at auto parts stores for mending stone chips in car paint. I did an invisible mend on a black Squier body with one of those.

We need to fix the dent in the wood first, though. It can be done!

Black guitars are so easy... :)

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:27 pm
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Well, I would love to see pictures. Sometimes the dents are way easier to fix if the finish is knocked right off the body. then it's easy to steam em right out. Soldering pencil and damp rag to the rescue!!

Squiers are polyester finish? hmm learn something new each day. Not doubting you, I just never really thought about it. The auto paint repair kit is a great idea. Do you really think black is the easiest to repair? I have always found even the smallest mistakes seem to stand out like a sore thumb on black.

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Squiers are polyester finish? hmm learn something new each day. Not doubting you, I just never really thought about it. The auto paint repair kit is a great idea. Do you really think black is the easiest to repair? I have always found even the smallest mistakes seem to stand out like a sore thumb on black.


(My, it takes me so long to find the picture I want in Photobucket these days!)

This pic is the best I have to hand and it wasn't taken to show the finish repair I'm afraid, so you'll have to take my word for it a bit. Very dusty spot between the trem and the pickguard!

However, this was a six-screw to two-point conversion on a black Squier body. After filling the holes and scraping the surface flat I first built up the thickness with the grey primer in one of those touch-up kits. Then several more layers of the black to arrive at the right thickness - which is certainly very thick with that polyester!

The whole area between the trem block cavity and the bridge pickup cavity has had the finish touch-up. Spot the join?

If you are kind enough to believe me on it, that is as near as you can imagine to an invisible repair. Of course, it helps that much of it is hidden beneath the trem plate, but I was kinda miffed about that at the time because the joins were so invisible:

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Strange thing: at my auto shop there were numerous different black repair kits to match all the different car companies' black paints. Either I got amazingly lucky, or there ain't really much difference from one black to another. For the record, I used a black for a French Citroen. Seems unlikely Fender are using that particular paint.

Oh, and the kits I'm talking about are the ones where you get fat marker pen-like tubes of paint with little brushes fixed to the inside of the caps. Like a chunky set of girlie's nail lacquer. Simple, simple stuff...

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Nicely done Ceri. i am impressed. Don't get me wrong, i have done repairs on black, but I always find I have to go back to it a few times before I am happy.

You do excellent work.

I have used the kits, to repair stone chips on cars. They are easy peesy for sure. never thought about it for guitar repair, but it seems rather obvious now that you point it out :wink: :wink: , especially as a lot of guitar finishes are the same kind of paints as autos nowadays.

That cavity is weird, if you don't mind me saying so. I wonder why they went that way, rather than just doing a full swimming pool route? it looks like a swimming pool/hot tub route.

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:37 pm
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I actually have 2 black touch up kits here at the house. One for BMW's and one for Chevy Trucks. (I have only driven black vehicles for the last ten plus years)

The only problem I see is that the void is 1/4 inch into the wood. Should I fill it before I try to use the touch up kit? If so what should I use?


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Scot06 wrote:
I actually have 2 black touch up kits here at the house. One for BMW's and one for Chevy Trucks. (I have only driven black vehicles for the last ten plus years)

The only problem I see is that the void is 1/4 inch into the wood. Should I fill it before I try to use the touch up kit? If so what should I use?


I would use Bondo auto body filler.?


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