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Some kind of variation of esquire wiring,might do something like you are talking about too.Note that all 3 positions apply to a single pick up. One eliminates the tone control completely. Each postition has a drastically different tone.


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Okay, here's a rough image of what my tapped pickup would look like (looking down at it).

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Pickups are usually wound by starting at (1), wrapping some wire around the left (Gnd) eyelet and then following the arrows, around and around until it comes off and goes to (3), the right eyelet. A black wire is soldered at the left eyelet; a white wire at the right eyelet.

My tapped pickup would bring a loop (the 7500th) out to the middle eyelet (2) and secure some wire there, then continue on around and around for some more turns until ending at (3).

Got it!? Between Gnd and H, you'd have an overwound pickup. Between Gnd and LH, you'd have a normal vintagy pickup.

(That other hole in the flatwork is where the wires come up through.)

I think a picture of an actual pickup would help!

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How? Well, I don't suppose it's IP, so: imagine, instead of a single wire coming from the coil down to the Less Hot point, you just extend that single loop way out ... you'd have to have a pickup with a third eyelet. Wind that long loop round the eyelet, solder in a yellow wire and bingo!

Right.

The coffee guy thought of it this way, with the two coil ends close together soldered to the same eyelet, or whatever:

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I guess it could just as well be a single continuous copper wire, yes?

I notice Stew-Mac sell the "flatwork" material and the bits and pieces for inserting as many eyelets into it as you wish.

Well, Orville. You've got me thinking. Never before seen a reason to bother winding my own pickups - apart from repair jobs like yours. Now maybe there is a reason...

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Oh.

There's been more posts here while I was at my beautiful artwork.

I'm behind the game as usual.

Thanks, Orville...!

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Oh. There's been more posts here while I was at my beautiful artwork. I'm behind the game as usual. Thanks, Orville...!
Cheers - C


So, niki has his "magic compensated nut" and
I have my "magic tapped pickups" (patents pending all around).

I might have to make my own flatwork in order to get that third eyelet in.

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orvilleowner wrote:
Okay, here's a rough image of what my tapped pickup would look like (looking down at it).

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Pickups are usually wound by starting at (1), wrapping some wire around the left (Gnd) eyelet and then following the arrows, around and around until it comes off and goes to (3), the right eyelet. A black wire is soldered at the left eyelet; a white wire at the right eyelet.

My tapped pickup would bring a loop (the 7500th) out to the middle eyelet (2) and secure some wire there, then continue on around and around for some more turns until ending at (3).

Got it!? Between Gnd and H, you'd have an overwound pickup. Between Gnd and LH, you'd have a normal vintagy pickup.

(That other hole in the flatwork is where the wires come up through.)

I think a picture of an actual pickup would help!

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How would you seperate the winding s? :lol:

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How would you seperate the winding s? :lol:


I wouldn't. This isn't a humbucker. The wire is insulated.

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Ok i've 2 old charvel singlecoils that are weak (4.8K). I'd like to take the plunge and amalgamate them both into 1 O.O quackbucker (couldnt resist the keith harris reference sorry mate).

So basicaly i need to pierce another couple of eyeletts, wrap the wire of the doner pickup around the soon to be quackbucker.

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nikininja wrote:
Ok i've 2 old charvel singlecoils that are weak (4.8K). I'd like to take the plunge and amalgamate them both into 1 O.O quackbucker (couldnt resist the keith harris reference sorry mate).

So basicaly i need to pierce another couple of eyeletts, wrap the wire of the doner pickup around the soon to be quackbucker.


You have the idea. I like the idea of converting an existing pickup to be a tapped single coil.

But you only need one more eyelet. Start the additional wire at one of the old eyelets (the white one), wind to your heart's content, then terminate it at a new eyelet. You might want to wax pot the pickup too.

Quackbucker? Nothing's being "bucked" ... how about the "O.O. TurboSC" (for single coil)? If you want "fat," you've got it! If you want "lean," you can have that too!

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The Turb-O.O coil. All i need to do now is buy some wire and build a winder.
Theres no way i'm winding another 4000 turns by hand. I couldnt give a toss what Tim or Abby say about scatterwinding.

Would it be possible to just keep adding eyeletts and winds of wire to get a series of steps up? I'm thinking start with the lowest of low output pickups keep adding stages to get it to go from mouse whisper to banshee wail in 3 or 4 steps.

Certainly a very interesting idea.

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nikininja wrote:
The Turb-O.O coil. All i need to do now is buy some wire and build a winder. Theres no way i'm winding another 4000 turns by hand. I couldnt give a toss what Tim or Abby say about scatterwinding.

Would it be possible to just keep adding eyeletts and winds of wire to get a series of steps up? I'm thinking start with the lowest of low output pickups keep adding stages to get it to go from mouse whisper to banshee wail in 3 or 4 steps. Certainly a very interesting idea.


Of course you could have multiple taps! Have you checked out the Stew-Mac info page on a DIY winder using an adjustable speed drill? That's what I've used.

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