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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:08 am
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I'll start. I bought my 1989 Strat plus on I believe 4/26/1999 for a mere $400. I instantly fell in love and knew I had to have it. I had the store hold it for me so I could go to the bank an get cash. I was 18 at the time and my mother's name was on my bank account and I could not pull the cash. A friend of mine later went to the same music store hoping to buy that guitar but it had a reserved tag on it (for me). He is still pissed at me to this day. Anyway I relunctly told the store owner what happened and tearfully left without the guitar. :( I came back a few days later with my dad and to my surprise the guitar was still there. :o I explained to my dad the details of the guitar and that the sticker price of $499 was a great deal. We offered the store $400 and they accepted. FYI, I paid my dad back $200 as he said it was a graduation present. This guitar was number 6 in my collection. I have added many more to my collection and it still stands as my favorite. The neck is perfect. I get every sound I could want from this guitar. It is like a perfectly taylored pair of pants. I have made no modifications to it. It is exactly as I bought it over ten years ago and every time I play it is like falling in love again. I have played a handful of other Strat plus' but none of them felt as good. I do plan on seeking out for as many as I can ranging from 1987-1993. Any way, here it is......

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This balck burst is really hard to come by. Look em up on google. not to many of em out there.

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Is there any green or sparkle in the black burst?


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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:28 am
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I have had my strat plus in about one and a half year now, and I've only played for 6 years and I'm 15. I found this guitar in my teachers shop and I wasn't planning on buying it because I really wanted a white strat, but after trying it I fell in love!
Since I got the Strat Plus I have never found any guitar that is better sounding or feeling ... It's just a guitar I'm planning on playing for the rest of my life!
I couldn't upload any of my exact, but it looks like this one:
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And the fretboard is scalloped, which is wonderful :D
And for some reason there was a Lace Sensor Red in the bridge, I replaced it, but I think the Gold was too thin and weak in the bridge, so I changed it back :lol:


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I am a huge fan of these models.

A few years ago I bought a Fender American Deluxe. I was a fan of the guitar from day one.

Just about two days ago I picked up a '93 Plus with Red/Silv/Blue Lace's in it.

It has the TBX tone control which I never messed with before, but I'm getting a great handful of tones through this new setup with my HRD.

I grabbed my most recent in Midnight Blue.


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Strataholic wrote:
Hey - anyone get any new strat pluses lately? - OH YEA - I DID - I recently got a beautiful dead mint (yea, they always say that) 97 strat plus in Inca Silver with rosewood board. It has all the original options and narry a scratch or a ding anywhere. Real nice flame on the neck too. I'm having a fit with Photobucket for pix - surely there must be something simpler?? Anyway, having a blast and I can't put her down!


I've ordered the correct white moto pickguard and back plate and topped it off with a Callaham "64" tremolo arm. I'll update the photos when she's finished.

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I would like to see pics of the midnight blue one, I had once, at least I was told it was midnight blue, but it didn't look like the midnight blue on the color chart. Would like to see how your's looks.


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Hey Jason - I have a blue pearl dust - you mean that one?


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No, I meant Modestglock's strat plus.


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I used to be a the proud owner of a '87 Strat Plus that was stripped down the the wood. I foolishly sold this guitar for reasons that I'm too imbarased to tell.

It was was great guitar that had so much sweat and love. I miss it very much. The light at the end of the tunnel was that I ended up getting a Candy Green Eric Clapton Strat a few years later too replace it.


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JasonSD wrote:
No, I meant Modestglock's strat plus.


Jason sorry the camera is on vaca with the rest of the familia at the moment. Will get some pics up when I can. Sorry for the tease.


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I'm selling my 72 Fender precission to by another plus or two!!!! It should be on the bay soon.


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Had the wife email me the one pic I took right when I got it home. Has some scratches, and some wear and will need a re-fret soon but for now it plays great and feels very nice. I'm really liking the TBX tone control right now.

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This pics doesn't do it justice, but I did confirm thru Fender CS it is Midnight Blue.


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http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae29 ... CN2527.jpg

Lovin my Ultra, never knew anything of them before I got this, had never heard of a lace sensor: shopped a while a found the right guitar for me... not to say I don't want others though. Ebony boards rule!


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Mine looked like it had a lot of purple in it. It looks a lot different depending on the lighting. I bought it on ebay and in the photos on there it looked like it had more blue metallic in it.

Here's a pic of mine.

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There are two models in this thread that should be separate because they are differing species. I think that Fender was just getting their Custom Shop together and needed models ready for production. This was a new FMIC corporation who didn't have much production in the 80's. I hear stories of making guitars with whatever parts were left around( remember the Stratocaster Elite?) But because of interest piqued by the current guitar gods, e.g., Clapton and Beck, in Fender products, obviously Fender thought they could sell a lot more guitars with signature models. The Eric Clapton model was first; the Beck version came next, with heavy input from both guitarists. To me the Plus is a production model of the signature Clapton and the Ultra is the mass production version of the Beck model(without the bat-neck). These models initially came with Lace Sensors.

The Plus has brushed chrome Sperzel hardware; the Ultra has polished chrome Schaller hardware. While they share the use of Lace Sensors the Plus' came with a SSS arrangement and the Ultra has a H/S/S arrangement. The Wilkinson metal nuts were on both guitars. The Ultras came with coil-taps and innovative 5 way switch different than all other Strats. Ebony fingerboards were used on the Ultras. Tremsetters were used on both. Both guitars were built rock-solid, because Fender had to erase memories of the unflattering eighties products they had produced.

Fender's association with Lace was a good one, so good they produced the Tele Plus. But that ended with the SCN Fender noiseless pickups helped in develpment by a Master pickup innovator, Mr. Bill Lawrence. So that leads one to wonder what would a Tele Ultra sound like?

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There are two models in this thread that should be separate because they are differing species. I think that Fender was just getting their Custom Shop together and needed models ready for production. This was a new FMIC corporation who didn't have much production in the 80's. I hear stories of making guitars with whatever parts were left around( remember the Stratocaster Elite?) But because of interest piqued by the current guitar gods, e.g., Clapton and Beck, in Fender products, obviously Fender thought they could sell a lot more guitars with signature models. The Eric Clapton model was first; the Beck version came next, with heavy input from both guitarists. To me the Plus is a production model of the signature Clapton and the Ultra is the mass production version of the Beck model(without the bat-neck). These models initially came with Lace Sensors.

The Plus has brushed chrome Sperzel hardware; the Ultra has polished chrome Schaller hardware. While they share the use of Lace Sensors the Plus' came with $@!/S arrangement and the Ultra has a H/S/S arrangement. The Wilkinson metal nuts were on both guitars. The Ultras came with coil-taps and innovative 5 way switch different than all other Strats. Ebony fingerboards were used on the Ultras. Tremsetters were used on both. Both guitars were built rock-solid, because Fender had to erase memories of the unflattering eighties products they had produced.

Fender's association with Lace was a good one, so good they produced the Tele Plus. But that ended with the SCN Fender noiseless pickups helped in develpment by a Master pickup innovator, Mr. Bill Lawrence. So that leads one to wonder what would a Tele Ultra sound like?


Just to set the story straight:

Those stories about guitars built using CBS-era parts are pretty much urban legend; from what I've read CBS had pretty much shut down the wood shop part of the factory by the end of 1984; those remaining Standards and Elites were assembled and shipped out before the factory was competely shuttered at the end of February 1985. FMIC bought the company in April but only received the "intellectual property" and electronic parts. It is my understanding that they received no bodies and necks. Fender sourced guitars from Japan from the time FMIC bought the company until they opened the first Corona factory in mid-1986. The first guitars from that factory were the US Vintage Reissues; the American Standards came in late 1986 (and were officially announced at the January 1987 NAMM show); the first Strat Plus guitars were announced at the same show but shown only as prototypes; they didn't start shipping until mid-1987.

The EC Signature came about because CBS-Fender had sent Clapton a few Elite Strats to try out to get him to use a modern model instead of his old vintage Strats. EC liked some things - the mid-boost, TBX, and noiseless nature of the Elite pickups but didn't like other aspects of the guitar. Fender worked with him to develop what became the current EC Signature Strat - incorporating noiseless pickups (by now these were Lace Sensors) and the mid-boost on a more vintage-styled Strat. There are a few early run/prototype ECs around with a 21-fret neck and an on-off switch for the boost. Those were quickly replaced by the current 22-fret neck and removal of the on-off switch.

Since both the Strat Plus and the Clapton Strat were production guitars, you can't say one was a version of the other. The Strat Plus was just an "upgraded" American Standard with modern width, C-shaped neck, Lace Sensors, roller nut, locking tuners, and the trem setter. The EC Signature had a vintage width V-neck, blocked trem, and the mid-boost. The only thing they had in common was the gold label Lace Sensors.

Beck was another story - Fender was working with Lace on applying the different versions of the Lace sensor. Beck was interested in the new American Standard Strats but wasn't doing much more than providing input at this time - Fender would hand him one and he would say "this works/that doesn't work, etc." He wanted more output that the gold label Laces found on the Strat Plus, so Fender put together what became the Strat Plus Deluxe. as a "proposed" Jeff Beck signature. Jeff backed out on putting his signature on the guitar in 1987 so it came out as the Strat Plus Deluxe with blue/silver/blue Lace Sensors. However, Beck came back to the "table" and they began working on what came out in 1990/91 as the Beck Signature (baseball bat neck, dual gold Lace in the bridge, no Trem-Setter). Of course, Jeff himself didn't play one with Lace Sensors very often; his personal prototype had pickups hand-wound for him by John Suhr, who was a Fender CS Master Builder at that time. He tried the production model's Lace set for a while, but eventually went back to the Suhr pickups until he replaced them with the Hot Noiseless pickups currently on the Beck Signature.

Of course the Strat Plus Deluxe evolved as well - moving from blue/silver/blue to the blue/silver/red Lace set and eventually adding ash veneers and the snap-in trem arm.

Early Strat Plus/Plus Deluxes had Sperzel tuners; they did switch to Schallers (for the most part) by the end of 1988.

The Ultra came out in 1991; it did have chrome hardware (I have played a couple that had chrome Sperzels but most have chrome Schaller tuners). The 5-way isn't particuarly unique; it's just a 5-way. The unique part of the switching was the 3-way mini-toggle that gave you the front/both/rear coil of the dual Lace.

Your also missing 6 years of Vintage Noiseless pickups, which were developed in-house by Fender's pickup department. These are the pickups that have been on the EC Strat since 2001, and this team developed the "Hot Noiseless" currently on the Beck Signatures. Bill Lawrence developed the next generation noiseless pickups, the SCNs, which were used from 2004 until this year when the N3s came out on the new versions of the American Deluxe.


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