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Dont fender keep their sales and turnover figures top secret. Perhaps some industrial espionage has taken place.

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Of course you'll sell "more" lower end products. People that are very serious professionals buy the best and don't have to buy again because they already have the best.

People that buy the lower end are beginners that are buying the cheapest thing they can buy, and find the cheapest place to buy it. There are tons of kids and beginners buying cheap guitars all the time. There are much fewer pros or people that buy pro gear. And when they do, they don't need to replace what they buy.


Just like how the cheap $10 guitar cords outsell Monster and Magami. Partially because they're junk and you have to buy them more often. A good lifetime warranty cable you only have to buy once.


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dgonz wrote:
Of course you'll sell "more" lower end products. People that are very serious professionals buy the best and don't have to buy again because they already have the best.

People that buy the lower end are beginners that are buying the cheapest thing they can buy, and find the cheapest place to buy it. There are tons of kids and beginners buying cheap guitars all the time. There are much fewer pros or people that buy pro gear. And when they do, they don't need to replace what they buy.


Just like how the cheap $10 guitar cords outsell Monster and Magami. Partially because they're junk and you have to buy them more often. A good lifetime warranty cable you only have to buy once.


has nothing to do with the price. when the highway one sss strat
was selling for $900 to $930 they were blowing the new american standard
off the stage. the highway one sss strat is simply a better guitar the highway one has much better tone versatility/playabilty and the pro player will tell you the same thing. you dont like them thats fine because for every one of you that dont like the highway one strat theres 5 who do.
the highway one sss strat is simply tone superior over the new american standard PERIOD END OF STORY.


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strat2004 wrote:

has nothing to do with the price. when the highway one sss strat
was selling for $900 to $930 they were blowing the new american standard
off the stage. the highway one sss strat is simply a better guitar the highway one has much better tone versatility/playabilty and the pro player will tell you the same thing. you dont like them thats fine because for every one of you that dont like the highway one strat theres 5 who do.
the highway one sss strat is simply tone superior over the new american standard PERIOD END OF STORY.


Just the facts ma'am.

Support even one claim you make here.

Superior tone is subjective, no one will argue that you like it better. You need to post something with substance for a change, instead of this constant drivel.

Defending it when no one says it sucks is getting tired. You seem to equate anyone liking anything else to a personal attack. And support your sales claims, if you can. Otherwise you have nothing to say.

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Twelvebar wrote:
strat2004 wrote:

has nothing to do with the price. when the highway one sss strat
was selling for $900 to $930 they were blowing the new american standard
off the stage. the highway one sss strat is simply a better guitar the highway one has much better tone versatility/playabilty and the pro player will tell you the same thing. you dont like them thats fine because for every one of you that dont like the highway one strat theres 5 who do.
the highway one sss strat is simply tone superior over the new american standard PERIOD END OF STORY.


Just the facts ma'am.

Support even one claim you make here.

Superior tone is subjective, no one will argue that you like it better. You need to post something with substance for a change, instead of this constant drivel.

Defending it when no one says it sucks is getting tired. You seem to equate anyone liking anything else to a personal attack. And support your sales claims, if you can. Otherwise you have nothing to say.


well lets start with sales facts all you have to do is ask
somtimes they will to you sometimes they wont. then lets talk to
other guitaris who eaither own this strat or have played it.
then lets visit other sites and read the comments on this brilliant strat.
cyber space is loaded with this type of info YOU NEED TO LOOK!
I'M FINISHED HAVE A GREAT DAY!


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strat2004 wrote:
Twelvebar wrote:

well lets start with sales facts all you have to do is ask
somtimes they will to you sometimes they wont. then lets talk to
other guitaris who eaither own this strat or have played it.
then lets visit other sites and read the comments on this brilliant strat.
cyber space is loaded with this type of info YOU NEED TO LOOK!
I'M FINISHED HAVE A GREAT DAY!


Blah blah blah

Again, no one has attacked the quality of the guitar. Support your claims.

I am making no assertions here. i don't need to do research. reviews are irrelevant since no one has said the guitar sucks. You need to support your claim that it outsells the STD 3 to 1.
Again you say nothing. Last weekend I took a friend out to buy her first strat. She ended up with a nice sunburst HW1. that's how much I hate them , i guess. i helped her pick it out, it was the best fit for her , not unimportantly in budget as well. I am not knocking it. But I see people buying Am Std's as well. In fact while we were buying heres, i saw one Am std get sold, and a CS relic. So do i say HWE1's Am. Std's and CS relics sell 1 to 1. No. because I have no velocity reports or any data to back it up. Guess what neither do you.

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nikininja wrote:
Dont fender keep their sales and turnover figures top secret. Perhaps some industrial espionage has taken place.

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hi nikininja,

not alot of people know,

sales records and turnover of any company are public documents. we all have the right to know what companys make and how!! in the uk anyway... not sure about america...

all the best

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That man (strat2004) always makes claims of fact and states" it's all over the net". He just can't link to his facts. He always ends in a huff and tells you to "look it up!" :? "End of story" he says but ..... he'll return to aggravate the forum in full "TROLL" fashion.
The strange part is no posters have said the highwayone is not a good guitar! :? The man needs psychiatric help. :roll:


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fhopkins wrote:
That nut (strat2004) always makes claims of fact and states it's all over the net. He just can't link to his facts. He always ends in a huff and tells you to look it up! :? End of story he says but ..... he'll return to aggravate the forum in full "TROLL" fashion.
The strange part is no posters have said the highwayone is not a good guitar! :? The man needs psychiatric help. :roll:

who the nut here? its simple shut your pie whole and look
things up. no you rather continue to put you foot in your mouth everytime you open it. theres plenty of information on this and other subjects YOU NEED TO LOOK you and a few others here a nothing more than a joke.
i laugh at you!


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louis1 wrote:
nikininja wrote:
Dont fender keep their sales and turnover figures top secret. Perhaps some industrial espionage has taken place.

james bond, james bond :?


hi nikininja,

not alot of people know,

sales records and turnover of any company are public documents. we all have the right to know what companys make and how!! in the uk anyway... not sure about america...

all the best

louis

Fender is not a public traded company. Private owned means no release of records to the public which is why there are no sales numbers You have to work around edges it to get info. :wink: Places like HOOVER's Fender's ID is 51318 and theres others. Theres not much you can't find out if you know how and where to look and talk to.


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FISCAL YEAR DATE: December, 2002

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In my view not every strat is for everyone. may you like one and hate other. but doesn´t mean that model is bad. That a nonsense answer!
So may the highway one isn´t for you...so play other! let the people that love this model alone. respect what they say. The H1 is the REAL DEAL for many strat owner. A great entry to MIA guitars and a excelent guitar to mod.

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I think the forum knows who is laughed at A.R. ! :wink:


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watch me throw a tantrum now!!!


still no facts.

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fhopkins wrote:
That nut (strat2004) always makes claims of fact and states it's all over the net. He just can't link to his facts. He always ends in a huff and tells you to look it up! :? End of story he says but ..... he'll return to aggravate the forum in full "TROLL" fashion.
The strange part is no posters have said the highwayone is not a good guitar! :? The man needs psychiatric help. :roll:

who the nut here? its simple shut your pie whole and look
things up. no you rather continue to put you foot in your mouth everytime you open it. theres plenty of information on this and other subjects YOU NEED TO LOOK you and a few others here a nothing more than a joke.
i laugh at you!

This is funny you calling fhop the nut :lol: strat2004 who have shown proof of nothing to anyone. Won't even post a pic of the many guitars you have. Angelo you need to ease off My friend.

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In my view not every strat is for everyone. may you like one and hate other. but doesn´t mean that model is bad. That a nonsense answer!
So may the highway one isn´t for you...so play other! let the people that love this model alone. respect what they say. The H1 is the REAL DEAL for many strat owner. A great entry to MIA guitars and a excelent guitar to mod.


Did you read through this thread before posting? If so show me a post where someone has said that the highwayone is NOT a good guitar.
I think we all agree that it is a good guitar.


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