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2. he is the biggest blues guitar hero of our generation



You gotta be kidding me. No freaking way.

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Its a good thing he can sing. I personally choose not to worship someone soly on the fact that they make panties drop. Especially when it comes to a blues guitarist. Fyi John Mayor is not known for his blues guitar. So regardless of how amazing his sig strat is, he, at his current skill level, would not stand out in a crowd. Please, calm down with the finatic groupie type comments, like, "if you don't think he's amazing, then go to hell." And stop letting your girlfriend dictate your musical influence. It is ok to like John Mayor, but lets not get carried away. :wink:


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the story behind it all will actually be one of the topics on the DVD included with "The Black One".

the main reason, in a nutshell:

1. because he has a huge fanbase

2. he is the biggest blues guitar hero of our generation

3. he knows what it takes to produce a good sounding instrument

4. people will buy it

I'm glad I bought mine, it is my main instrument apart from my '62RI, my tele, and my personal TBO replica.

all the mayer-haters can go screw themselves or just get over it.



I`m not a JM hater.I kinda like his music.I was being serious.He is a soft voiced sultry singer songwriter with average guitar skills at best.He has done very well for himself.Chicks really love that kind of music,I can see why he is so popular.
There are however legions of really great loyal Stratocaster players out there with much better playing skills than JM.

And nothing I said was in reference to whether the JM strats are good or bad.I`m sure they are really nice models.

My honest opinion probably was better kept to myself.I`m new here and I detect a bit of aggravation there must have been previous JM wars around here?
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I wasn't claiming you were, just was throwing it out there. sorry for the confusion.

there have been several wars about "Who deserves a signature and not" and there seem to be a lot of people who don't think John is worthy of one (of course, it doesn't matter, since he has one, and they can't change that)

most of the people who think he doesn't deserve one are usually either pissing and whining about how he has no skill, or are the arrogant type who have never even heard his non-pop material, and say he is nothing but a pretty-boy with no talent.

I personally think John deserves his own signature model more then, say, Joe Bonnamassa. (I'm not hating, but it is just what I think. the two actually are good friends)

I don't see anyone (besides Joe maybe) who can truly fit in the category of a blues guitar hero of our generation.

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Its a good thing he can sing. I personally choose not to worship someone soly on the fact that they make panties drop. Especially when it comes to a blues guitarist. Fyi John Mayor is not known for his blues guitar. So regardless of how amazing his sig strat is, he, at his current skill level, would not stand out in a crowd. Please, calm down with the finatic groupie type comments, like, "if you don't think he's amazing, then go to hell." And stop letting your girlfriend dictate your musical influence. It is ok to like John Mayor, but lets not get carried away. :wink:


I see that as uncalled for. and if you don't think he is known for his blues playing, you must have never listened to him work post 2004, or just don't get out much.

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come on guys- lets not let this thread go to the dogs here. We are here to enjoy ourselves and make new friends talking about what we love best. Lets not start another one of those debates -thats just going to go downhill :roll:

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I agree blertles. This thread is about the guitar, not John M himself.


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I personally think John deserves his own signature model more then, say, Joe Bonnamassa.



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Don't get me wrong, I like John Mayer (until he tries to sing - shudder). And he is improving in the blues genre. But he has a long way to go until he is a "blues guitar hero". And he pales in comparison to Joe Bonamassa.

In fact, I could name over a half dozen contemporaries who are better blues guitarists than John:
Bernard Allison, Derek Trucks, Jonny Lang, Kenny Wayne Shepard, Chris Duarte, Doyle Bramhall II, Charlie Sexton, Alvin Youngblood Hart, Kipori Woods, and Eric Sardinas come to mind.

I have said it before and will repeat myself. What John needs is to quit trying to front a band for a while. Get some seasoning playing guitar in a real blues band similar to the Yardbirds, Canned Heat, or John Mayall's Bluesbreakers they way that EC, Jimmy Page, Walter Trout and Jeff Beck did.
Then he might become a "blues guitar hero". But he has a long, long way to go to achieve that status in my mind.

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maxoom wrote:
chanman246 wrote:
the story behind it all will actually be one of the topics on the DVD included with "The Black One".

the main reason, in a nutshell:

1. because he has a huge fanbase

2. he is the biggest blues guitar hero of our generation

3. he knows what it takes to produce a good sounding instrument

4. people will buy it

I'm glad I bought mine, it is my main instrument apart from my '62RI, my tele, and my personal TBO replica.

all the mayer-haters can go screw themselves or just get over it.



I`m not a JM hater.I kinda like his music.I was being serious.He is a soft voiced sultry singer songwriter with average guitar skills at best.He has done very well for himself.Chicks really love that kind of music,I can see why he is so popular.
There are however legions of really great loyal Stratocaster players out there with much better playing skills than JM.

And nothing I said was in reference to whether the JM strats are good or bad.I`m sure they are really nice models.

My honest opinion probably was better kept to myself.I`m new here and I detect a bit of aggravation there must have been previous JM wars around here?
peace everyone peace


average at best, i think hes above average but anyway.
just check out where the light is. jump the acoustic part.
go straight into the trio section. if you still think hes average, ill respect that.
i honestly think he deserves his own sig strat.
but i will say one thing,
I think Jeff Healey is way past overdue with his own sig strat.


I guess it depends who you ask on JM's playing ability. I'm with maxoom. I find younger players will rank him higher, but older players will rank him more in the average side compared to other pro blues players out there. I think Jeff Healey is a higher caliber blues player than JM.

Sometimes, playing ability can be mistaken for a person's image persona. JM has more public appeal in a sense he has better PR making him known to the public more, more marketable....$$$$ So anything with JM would sell.

Better players IMHO, like Healey for example not as known to the public outside from the guitar community, simply get unoticed outside the guitar commujity.. This goes for the likes of Freddy King, Albert Collins, Albert King, and so on.

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maxoom wrote:
How did JM get a signature model anyway?


Same question I'd ask about KWS anyways, and why Jonny Lang doesn't have one?

+100 on the Jeff Healey Squier!!!! I almost had one made... Only problem was, I couldn't find a Squier decal! Hahahahaha...


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Bottom line, I think the JM strat is a great sounding axe. That's all that matters right?


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I have seen John Mayer in concert as well as Kenny Wayne Shepard and KWS is a much better guitar player in the blues realm than JM.I saw KWS play Voodoo Chile Slight Return and did a pretty good job.I would think that that song is a little bigger than JM.I would say the one thing that makes it hard to take John Mayer as serious is, he still wants to appeal to 12-16 year olds.


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budglo wrote:
I have seen John Mayer in concert as well as Kenny Wayne Shepard and KWS is a much better guitar player in the blues realm than JM.I saw KWS play Voodoo Chile Slight Return and did a pretty good job.I would think that that song is a little bigger than JM.


I agree that KWS is a good player. No doubts about that. But when's the last time you heard him really rip on something original? His Voodoo Chile is still SRV's version. At least SRV made whatever he took from Hendrix into his own versions. KWS simply plays everything lock stock and barrel.

For Mayer, I'd say give the man some time to mature. He seems to be doing today what Clapton did way back in the past, which is to bring the blues to a bigger audience. except EC did it a lot in the UK, and Mayer is doing it today in the US.

He's bringing back the blues into the mainstream spotlight. And he's really getting kids to pick up guitar. That gets my vote for sure.

Or would you rather kids listen to the Jonas Brothers?


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Good point about John Mayer.As far as maturity, the same can be said of Kenny Wayne Sheperd .He is the same age as JM.I dont dispute the Voodoo Chile sounds alot like SRV, but then again SRV was accused of ripping off Albert King (which I dont agree with). I think Mayer has great potential as an artist , but he has yet to sell out to Pop or blues.Blues isnt something you just play, its something you fell deep down inside.The one thing i always admired about Eric Clapton was whatever he did, whether it was blues, country , rock or pop, he played it with such raw conviction that you had to notice him, same with srv.Its one of the reasons he is one of the great ones.


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