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Post subject: Advice needed ASAP :)
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:17 pm
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Hey everyone, my name is Eoin and I'm 18. I have a Strat knockoff I got brand new for around 80 euro and an Artec GP-10 amp for 50 euro new too.

hxxp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Elevation-Full-Si ... wItemQQptZ UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item33543e2 590&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

This is not the exact same guitar but it's identical to mine

Here is the amp

hxxp://www.waltons.ie/Product/View.aspx?id=11561

Ok so here is my issue :

When I play it sounds ok but I'm easily demotivated. I think it's me but sometimes I think my guitar just sounds bad. When I play certain riffs they just don't sound right. I've been playing acoustic for around a year and electric only a few months. One day I randomly messed with my truss rod not knowing what it could do and I think I may have messed with the neck etc. Then I read today about intonation and mine is out on a few strings. I tried fixing it but I can't/dunno how on my saddle.

For example on this riff

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------0-------0-|------0-----------|------------|
----4-------5---|----7-------0-----|--0-----0---|
--2-------3-----|--5-------4-------|2-----------|
0-------0-------|0-------5-----5s3-|----3s5-----|

the open G totally ruins the sound, since it's meant to blend in but it makes this weird out of tune noise and sounds like crap when I play it, but its in tune? I dunno what to do. And I'm having trouble with muting too, dunno why, I think and hope it's just me, not my gear etc

I tried messing with the saddle and when I get the 12th fret note on a string in tune the open one goes out and when I get the open one in tune the 12th goes out, I'm so fed up. I dunnp whether I should buy some new strings tomorrow and try again, hoping new strings will make a difference, or just bring my guitar in for a setup in the store. Or maybe just forget about it and save for a new one? Sometimes when I'm playing mostly my g string will sound a little out even tho it shows up as tuned on the tuner, and some strings rattle or buzz off the neck, it's really demotivating and annoying

Any advice on my three options I listed above would help immensely


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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:24 pm
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I think you should probably have a professional look at your guitar. Leave the truss rod adjustment to a professional. Good luck.

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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:31 pm
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A normal working guitar can adjust the intonation simply by lengthening or shortening the saddles, not height just sliding it up or down. If this is not working there is some serious issues happening, are you loosening the strings before you adjust the saddles ? Good luck


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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:38 pm
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Well if you messed with the truss rod and weren't sure what you were doing, then I would take it to a shop and have a setup done on it. They'll adjust the truss rod, the saddles, check the fret buzzing, and a list of other things.


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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:02 am
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Yes I totaly agree .Bring it in to a pro tech and tell him everything you are experiencing and he should have you plugged back in in no time.


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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:23 am
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JasonSD wrote:
Well if you messed with the truss rod and weren't sure what you were doing, then I would take it to a shop and have a setup done on it. They'll adjust the truss rod, the saddles, check the fret buzzing, and a list of other things.


Hi Ramza126: that's the best advice, for sure. Though it's going to cost a big part of what you paid for that guitar, which is a drag.

In case someone can recommend a good tech nearby, where in the country are you? If you happen to be within five minutes walk of me, why I'll do it for you myself (no charge). But I ain't walking for a sixth minute...!

Good luck - C


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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:18 pm
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Ceri wrote:
But I ain't walking for a sixth minute...!
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Places to be, people to see?

I'll make a similar offer, bring it round and i'll sort it. I'm in south linc's.

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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:32 pm
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Ceri wrote:
But I ain't walking for a sixth minute...!
C

Places to be, people to see?

Nah, just lazy!

BTW: Ramza126, if it actually came to a meeting, we'd obviously hedge things around carefully to make it safe. 18 year olds need to be a little cautious meeting up with people they don't know from the internet.

I think you'd likely get great setup from Nikininja though! One of these days I'd like to have that gentleman teach me some stuff about amp innards...

Cheers - C


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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:12 pm
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You need to have a pro set your guitar back up. Now that you "experimented" with a delicate adjustment that you know nothing about, you have no idea how to fix it or how it should even be in the first place. That's like opening the hood of your car and just "tinkering" around until something get messed up, that asking how to fix that from someone online. You can't do stuff like that :)

After you get that done, keep in mind that playing acoustic and electric is very different. Yes, they're both guitars and yes, it's all "music". But the way you play things will vary greatly between the two. Certain things you played on the acoustic that sound great will sound terrible on the electric, depending on either how much distortion you have and how strings are ringing out.


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For starters, your playing Metallica riffs, and thats why it sounds so bad.
Take it to a tech and stop playing Metallica.


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Ceri wrote:
But I ain't walking for a sixth minute...!



You don't look that out of shape in the pics you posted!!

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:53 pm
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How can a logger and a carpenter like Ceri be out of shape! :wink:


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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:07 pm
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I knew that riff looked familiar...Sanitarium lol


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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:02 pm
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I'll add to the list of free amateur tech guys willing to help - I'm in Birmingham UK if thats anywhere close.


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jnastyNE wrote:
For starters, your playing Metallica riffs, and thats why it sounds so bad.
Take it to a tech and stop playing Metallica.


Good eye! thats the intro to sanitarium! :lol:

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