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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:31 am
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Sure, there are lots of moralistic reasons not to buy anything from Behringer.

But the best reason is that it all sucks.

The first compressor I ever had in my studio was a Behringer that a "friend" was selling and let me audition. It pumped, it wheezed, it either attacked too fast or not at all, there was no usable setting on the damn thing. I finally came to realize that it even effected the signal IN BYPASS.

Later I learned that it was a crazy cheap copy of a dbx 1066, only with VCA's that were just about good enough for a See 'n' Say. It would never sound good, because it couldn't sound good. My "friend" got it back.

My second experience and final with Behringer was walking into a recommended studio in Arizona to produce vocal tracks with a Phoenix singer. The room was gorgeous, the monitors top-shelf, the desk was pristine, and the entire outboard rack was filled with Behringer products. I knew at a glance the guys who spec'ed that room were idiots, and no surprise, the tracks we recorded there were ultimately unusable.

Don't buy Behringer products. Not because of all the OTHER good reasons not too. DOn't buy it because they're ripping you off. Just say no to junk.


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I had my 6260 aka 5150 clone for almost 5 months, only thing went was a power tube. They had problems on there 07-08 models because of a bad transformer clip. The wires were not soldered down to the pc board and some were to ark and cause the power tubes from being powered. easy fix, take it apart and resolder the wires back. this is the only amp I like for vanhalen type music to metal because it has tons of gain, like a 5150III. No fender cleans on that amp but its ok not bad. There 1990 amp sounds like a Marshal JVM 900 nice gain and a very good chimmy clean channel.1960 amp is like a plexi style amp, there 333's models are like a peavey JSX and a triple xxx models. And they have some newer smaller wattage models out also. Go to UG community@ ultimate guitar.com bugera militia threads there


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Behringer aren't all bad at all. Sure their not eventide, but they make some decent usable products. The Vamp is still a decent alternative to Pod v2's and offers arguably better clean tones than any of line6's emmulation devices. I bought their digital reverb pedal too. Certainly far better than any boss or digitech verb for half the money. Its never going to be lexicon standard but its not aimed at that. Behringer know just where their market are, if they get some idiot trying to build a studio around their products then they have only won. Stupid studio builder. Not everyone wants a knopfler standard rig, hardly anyone on the planet needs it. Those who can justify shelling out on it shouldnt need it, tone is in the fingers after all.
Its exactly this kind of pedal snobbery that has led to the rise of a million "boutique" manufacturers, flooding the market with their substandard £200+ rubbish. I cant remember any drive/fuzz that sounded worth £50 let alone the astronomical fee's comanded by these boutique clowns. The fuzzface, you can build better for £20, its not a complex circuit. If you can put a pickup in a guitar you can wire a fuzzface. Yet they sell for £175, why? They didnt even sound good when hendrix played them, thats why he went to roger mayer.
For the record i even think the ibanez TS series sound like cr@p too. Not even good for driving the front end of a amp unless you want some kind of honking overdrive that dominates all else in the mix (not my idea of a good sound). Yet everyone has been told they sound good and believe the people telling them. Am i the only one who cant see the emporor's new clothes?

Now everyone can tell me how wrong i am.

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:00 pm
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Well, I suppose if you want something to make a horrible fuzzy noise, Behringer would be fine. :)


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No i dont like their fuzzs or drives either :lol:

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SlapChop wrote:
Well, I suppose if you want something to make a horrible fuzzy noise, Behringer would be fine. :)

i agree

yea my brother worked at guitar center and he told me never to buy
any Behringer becuase everything has noise...

i played a club last month and took a peek at the mixer and saw a Behringer
and i said to my self O Boy here we go...
It was bad.... and distorted :cry:

i understand if your on a budget ..
but if you have the cash..dont be cheap buy something mid range at least

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The vamp doesnt buzz its quieter than the pod, i had both at one time. The Vamp outlasted the podv2 and xt. The reverb i use now is certainly quierter than the fender reverb on my blues failiure, even with the tank 2ft away from the amp.

Be careful of guitarshop mythos based on commision wage mentality. Its only trying to get more money out of you. You cant honestly think a mixing desk was the cause of bad sound rather than a poor soundperson. What did everyone do 30 years ago when the technology we have just wasnt around?

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nikininja wrote:
Be careful of guitarshop mythos based on commision wage mentality. Its only trying to get more money out of you. You cant honestly think a mixing desk was the cause of bad sound rather than a poor soundperson. What did everyone do 30 years ago when the technology we have just wasnt around?


Hey Nikininja you might be one of the lucky ones :lol:

like i mentioned earlier my brother worked at Guitar Center and Sam Ash for about 3 years. he told me not to buy Behringer becuase they have noise and/or problems right off the bat and the return rate is very high.

Hes my brother, he never made any money off me, so its not like he wanted me to buy something more pricey to make a commision ..

im sure Behringer make's some ok stuff but im not willing to take a chance ...i believe you get what you pay for.

By the way the band before us also had problems with the mixer and we all had our own sound Guy.

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nikininja wrote:
Be careful of guitarshop mythos based on commision wage mentality. Its only trying to get more money out of you. You cant honestly think a mixing desk was the cause of bad sound rather than a poor soundperson. What did everyone do 30 years ago when the technology we have just wasnt around?



Behringer makes pure $@!&. If your happy with your V-Amp , then fine. But I can vouch for the fact that a Behringer mixing console will not - in fact, cannot - sound good. It's just made out sub-par junk. It has no headroom. The faders are glitchy and the channel pre's are just about good enough for a cordless phone. It's not a mixer: it's a crosstalk generator.

As for 30 years ago, the "technology" of making a good analog mixing desk or compressor was essentially the same as it is now: but there was no huge "pro-sumer" market for underperforming crap that cost a 1/10th of what it should. Tascam had just started building their hideous little "home studio" gear, and nobody else was in the market. So all the tech 30 years ago was made of top quality components. It had to be: nobody but professionals was buying it.

The glut of "home studios" has led to the profitability of Behringer and a vast ocean of horrible recordings.


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