What's going on here!???!

Lonely Boy's headstock decals ... let's dissect the parts. I don't have an image handy, but from memory of the various parts:

1) the transition bold word "Fender" (gold with black outline) first appeared on the 1962 Jaguar. It didn't appear on the Stratocaster until mid-1964 (I know, I have one).

2) the patent numbers. Three numbers do appear on 1962 Strats.

3) the bold black curved word "STRATOCASTER" first appeared in 1968.

Assuming those decals were put on when Lonely Boy was constructed (probably in the Phillipines, but sold to US GIs on their way to Vietnam), the oldest it could possibly be is 1968.

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My other guitar is a Strat.

The seventies headstock was not copied from the seventies as the guitar is cleary early sixties thats the way they made it. And twelvebar that explanation is as cloudy as the error you made in posting those pics of the error in the pics it clearly says 63 -64 when they came out in 62. And the guitar is famous and the earliest example of a fake fender racehorse show me one older than Lonely Boy. And ps hoppy no sweat as you proved your true colours my friend when you failed to add me as a friend on facebook even after you contacted ME so thats fine. 62 serial numbers yes The Oldest fake in existance. Posting pics of genuine fender logos is totaly useless in this case we are dealing with an old fake guitar with many mixed elements and can only be sold by the evidence like I said once again 61 markings patina on metal and look at the wood and 62 serial numbers.

Vinny, I don't have a facebook account. I don't do any of that stuff! So long. What a disappointment!

Do what ever you want and Ill have the last say here and you can all ramble on as I have better things to do. The vet who is interested in my guitar played an exact copy in 1967 on the Hobart with large headstock so you can shove your its a seventies headstock up your asses and goodbye. And ps Ill miss you all especially Blerties my friend. And you did contact me hoppy the name came through as Trish Hopkins and it was around the time a couple of months back when you even told me you would contact me on facebook so wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww its not you what a coincidence. Ciao from Vinny Pop and Lonely Boy have fun guys and gals its been GREAT blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa and twaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
PS Look out for my Vinny Pop signature strats they are coming soon.

hello orvilleowner thanks but incorrect as the vet who is interested in it played an EXACT copy on the naval ship the Hobart in 1967 and thankyou for stating that that logo came from a 62 Jaguar as that helps me a lot and further stuffs up the no it alls here on this thread.

"RILEY MARTIN" anyone else notice a resemblance?

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This thread is better than any show on TV.........

What about the first sentence in paragraph two of the ebay ad, " it's difficult to work out a STRATING price...". Haha, that has got to be the best unintended pun I have ever seen

A starting price is very easy, $1.00 then let the market decide. How much Vinnypop wants for it is another matter.

BTW, I am new here and have read through this rambling mess, but is there proof Vinnypop paid $6500 for this guitar? Seems to me no claims by Vinnypop are ever substantiated. This whole episode smacks of desperate self promotion.......

Still, I will continue to enjoy future episodes!!

Anyone care to make an opening bid?

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$20

Ok Guys- enough is enough. Vin is a top bloke and he has been kind enough to tell us all stories of his lifetime- please dont attack him because of the listing- he, above all the Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaa and the Twaaaaaaaaaaaaa, is a nice bloke.

I know we are guitar geeks- we get annoyed with false listings, but leave it please. At least for the time being.

Vin, take your listing off mate- and re-think it. take on board what others have said, and cut out the attacks on you & dont take it personally, you are better than that mate, come on. Think about it vin, they are trying to help- its just got out of hand. I'm not trying to shake it up vin, but the guys are right. There was no way a '70s decal could be on a '62. But Im going to let you think about it, Im not going to argue with anyone on these forums.

Think about it and put it up again when you have had time to digest this and think it through. Do a little study on the matter, and re-list thats the best thing you could do.

As for the rest of you- you should be ashamed. You all may have your points, but dont ever attack someone like a pack of wolves to the point of no return to this site. It makes me want to leave, if this is the sort of thing thats going to carry on. I think if vin took his listing off, maybe an apology wouldnt go astray. It's fair.

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You all deserve to go to bed without dinner!!

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Blertes i'm ashamed of nothing. My only attack was a repercussion of an attack i'd received.

Stuff the clown, he's proved himself to be the greedy con artist we all knew he was (Beatles printing plates from 3.5m to 24m). He's more than prepared to rip someone else off in the same way he got took for a mug. That disqualifies someone from even addressing me, let alone put them in 'good bloke' status.

WWVD?

Try and rip you off to make a few quid despite his superficial christian beliefs. From what I can see.

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Ok well just keep it at that till he comes on again- I wasnt directing that at you mate, and I do apologise if it felt that way. If he's a good man, he'll come back and admit he was wrong. Even if he believes he was right in the first place.
You know what kind of guy he is, simple & humble and a little blllllllaaaaaaaaaa & Twaaaaaaaaaaaaaa but get any idea in his mind and he'll believe it and run with it.


Im a little dissapointed that he didnt take what everyone said on board and got himself worked up... I dont think he is intentionally trying it on though, maybe just a little oblivious to what Lonely Boy is or isnt..

like I said, he just needs to take it off and do a little homework. the proof will be in the pudding



Be careful there are others on here with christian beliefs (not me though)- I know you didnt mean it in that way mate

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Mate i'm not having a go at Christianity, i worked for a local pentecostal church for 2 years. I question the beliefs of anyone that puts money above integrity. We've all got to make a quid, theres nothing wrong in that at all. Money is not the root of all evil and the bible doesnt say it is. It does say [quote= "Apostle Paul"]1 Timothy 6:10 (New International Version)
10; For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
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Seems quite apt for this instance.

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The 62 Jaguar has the exact Fender logo so what you told me that THAT logo is from the seventies is all $@!&. Niki stop calling me names. Blerties I am removing nothing these guys may be strat swavy but when it comes to fakes they are totally ignorant anymore name calling I will report you. Ive reworded my ad and have made full disclosures for any interested party to investigate all the claims. My ebay ad is totally honest revealing all the info I have and have been given. Anyone tries to stuff up my sale I will trace you and SUE YOUR $@! and any more name calling and slander I Will SUE YOUR $@! also. A message from Vinny Pop