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Post subject: Which Fender do I need?
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:19 am
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Hello all you Fenderists out there.
I am a young guitar player, and pretty new to the guitar world (have been playing for almost a year). Even though I haven't been playing for so long i already know the basic theory about guitars (tones, octaves, pentatonics, harmonics etc.)
I am a REALLY big fan of the Red Hot Chili Peppers - their early sound, with the funky guitar parts, but also the latest RHCP songs. John Frusciante is by far my favourite guitarist, and now I am looking for a Fender that will give me the capabilities to play RHCP's music, with the exact right tone. I would like to make my own songs, and i have got some basic funk rythms in my head, but it's hard to make them come to live on my current guitars.
I have a Gibson Les Paul Studio 2008, and a Fender CD-60 Acoustic also 2008.

WHICH FENDER DO I NEED? :)

Thanks!,
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:40 am
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Hello SuneA,

Firstly welcome to this forum.

Well my 2cents.

Get a Stratocaster, American Standards a good starting point
you can go up or down from there, but it woud be right on par
with your Les Paul Studio. Get on over to the music store and
play many, You may also like a Telecaster.

Best of luck on you guitar hunting.

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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:50 am
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Thanks for the advice.

I have heard that older Fender guitars play better than the newer ones. So I was also wondering, if I in the long term would feel satisfied with a Fender that just came out from the factory. I want a guitar that i can keep for the rest of my life, without wanting to get a new guitar in a few years.
That is also the reason why i bought my Les Paul, and not a cheap beginner model. I am already in a band, and we play live here and there, and I know that if i had bought a cheap guitar at first, I would already be wanting to replace it now.


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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:56 am
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SuneA wrote:
Thanks for the advice.

I have heard that older Fender guitars play better than the newer ones. So I was also wondering, if I in the long term would feel satisfied with a Fender that just came out from the factory. I want a guitar that i can keep for the rest of my life, without wanting to get a new guitar in a few years.
That is also the reason why i bought my Les Paul, and not a cheap beginner model. I am already in a band, and we play live here and there, and I know that if i had bought a cheap guitar at first, I would already be wanting to replace it now.


That's just a myth. No two same model guitars will sound and/or play exactly the same in my opinion whether older or newer.

Consider neck profiles, radius, access to upper frets, tone controls and overall sound and playability.

Good luck!

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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:29 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
SuneA wrote:
Thanks for the advice.

I have heard that older Fender guitars play better than the newer ones. So I was also wondering, if I in the long term would feel satisfied with a Fender that just came out from the factory. I want a guitar that i can keep for the rest of my life, without wanting to get a new guitar in a few years.
That is also the reason why i bought my Les Paul, and not a cheap beginner model. I am already in a band, and we play live here and there, and I know that if i had bought a cheap guitar at first, I would already be wanting to replace it now.


That's just a myth. No two same model guitars will sound and/or play exactly the same in my opinion whether older or newer.

Consider neck profiles, radius, access to upper frets, tone controls and overall sound and playability.

Good luck!


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If you do wind up buying an American, or even a Mexican, Strat, it's highly unlikely that you'll ever need to sell it. Fender makes a lot of really high quality instruments that will last anyone for years and years. Play as many as you can and pick the one that feels best to you. If you're bent on a vintage instrument, prepare to pay big money for a guitar that is, at least from a technical viewpoint, no better than the brand new ones.

As a side-note, it's important to understand that even the best Stratocaster or the exact Strat played by the Chili Peppers' guitar player may not deliver the tone you need. There are myriad factors involved, the most important of which is your own two hands. Also: amplifiers, pedals and the room in which you're playing. It's quite possible that many of the Chili's songs were not recorded with a Strat either. Tone matching is a risky business: get a guitar that you love for your own reasons.


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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:16 am
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Vulkan wrote:
Miami Mike wrote:
SuneA wrote:
Thanks for the advice.

I have heard that older Fender guitars play better than the newer ones. So I was also wondering, if I in the long term would feel satisfied with a Fender that just came out from the factory. I want a guitar that i can keep for the rest of my life, without wanting to get a new guitar in a few years.
That is also the reason why i bought my Les Paul, and not a cheap beginner model. I am already in a band, and we play live here and there, and I know that if i had bought a cheap guitar at first, I would already be wanting to replace it now.


That's just a myth. No two same model guitars will sound and/or play exactly the same in my opinion whether older or newer.

Consider neck profiles, radius, access to upper frets, tone controls and overall sound and playability.

Good luck!


+1

If you do wind up buying an American, or even a Mexican, Strat, it's highly unlikely that you'll ever need to sell it. Fender makes a lot of really high quality instruments that will last anyone for years and years. Play as many as you can and pick the one that feels best to you. If you're bent on a vintage instrument, prepare to pay big money for a guitar that is, at least from a technical viewpoint, no better than the brand new ones.

As a side-note, it's important to understand that even the best Stratocaster or the exact Strat played by the Chili Peppers' guitar player may not deliver the tone you need. There are myriad factors involved, the most important of which is your own two hands. Also: amplifiers, pedals and the room in which you're playing. It's quite possible that many of the Chili's songs were not recorded with a Strat either. Tone matching is a risky business: get a guitar that you love for your own reasons.


Thank you for that answer Vulkan, it helped me quite a bunch!! :)


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Post subject: Re: Which Fender do I need?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:48 pm
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SuneA wrote:
Hello all you Fenderists out there.
I am a young guitar player, and pretty new to the guitar world (have been playing for almost a year). Even though I haven't been playing for so long i already know the basic theory about guitars (tones, octaves, pentatonics, harmonics etc.)
I am a REALLY big fan of the Red Hot Chili Peppers - their early sound, with the funky guitar parts, but also the latest RHCP songs. John Frusciante is by far my favourite guitarist, and now I am looking for a Fender that will give me the capabilities to play RHCP's music, with the exact right tone. I would like to make my own songs, and i have got some basic funk rythms in my head, but it's hard to make them come to live on my current guitars.
I have a Gibson Les Paul Studio 2008, and a Fender CD-60 Acoustic also 2008.

you need the "tele" or telecaster the bridge pickup gives you that rhcp sound you want
WHICH FENDER DO I NEED? :)

Thanks!,
Sune


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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:45 pm
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I have long since given up on trying to duplicate a certain guitarist's tone. Far too many variables to account for. A Gibson Studio is no git to laugh at, but if you want the raw grittyness of single coils, than you wont get that in a humbucker pickup. I love my MIA strat, but its a second to my Les Paul, simply because it feels/sounds good to me. JF has worked with some of the best producers in rock/pop music, and RHCP records reflect the influence. Steal a little here and there, but you need to establish or o wn tone.


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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:26 pm
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Buy a Stratocaster. Try all the models you can. American, Mexican, or Japanese it does not matter as long as you like it. I think that John Frusciante plays a 60's model Stratocaster for some of his music.

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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:47 pm
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'Agree with Mike especially and the consensus.

Personal recommendation rides with the veterans.

Play a bunch of guitars. In this opinion, way, way, way more than half the tone is in the fingers and soul. Guitars and amps and effects all combine to produce a tird or quarter of the final product.

And above and beyond all, have fun. Life is much too serious to take seriously.


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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:37 am
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Well you started off with a great guitar now go pick up a strat which is what Frusciante plays and your set for life. The strat will give you that single coil funk sound you are looking for and the Paul will take care of all your humbucking needs,and by having 2 diverse sounding axes will be a great help in writing music.


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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:03 am
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I think the guitar you are looking for is the telecaster because you want that chili pepper sound you will find in the bidge pickup


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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:26 pm
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I think you should get one of these:

http://www.fender.com/products//search. ... 0100100857

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