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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:50 am
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BigJay wrote:
Forgive me, Martian, but that still doesnt make sense to me, given what the OP described. He said the strings continue to move sharp, implying higher string tension. This would explain the bridge pulling up, although he didnt actually say thats happening.


If the strings are moving sharp, then the spring tension is superior. If the bridge continually lifts, the strings would be moving flat.

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Regarding your truss theory, if the truss arches out, yes the tuning would go sharp and the bridge would raise. But the truss cant continue to move. So, if the strings are sharp and he tunes them down, there will be a point where the truss couldnt continue to arch back, at least without fretting out.


The bridge can still continue to do what it has a predisposition to do, independent of the neck and vice versa. The final stages of a setup is what should be keeping all of this in check.

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Regarding your rubber band analogy, you are describing lengths of higher tension as the rubber band "grabs" in certain spots. I understand the concept. However, in this case, the strings appear to be pulling the bridge up suggesting the "grabbing" is not at the bridge. This means it can only be grabbing at the next "node", or position where the string doesnt vibrate...the nut. If the tension from the nut is pulling the bridge higher, it means the nut is not allowing the strings to return to parity after tension is reduced. Adjusting the claw will not compensate for this. Only lubing or cutting the nut can cure this problem.


No nut grab is equal to tremolo spring pull. Consequently, tightening the claw can indeed oftentimes obliterate certain nut grabs. It is a case of superior PSI vs. inferior PSI.

Granted, and I surely do see your point, it can be just the nut and oftentimes, such circumstances do indeed dictate this as the stand alone malady with your's being the stand alone remedy. Yet, based on my interpretation of the OP's complaint, it appears in his case to be a combination of a few things. Sight unseen, all we can do at this point is surmise, based on our own experiences.

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:03 pm
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I think lubrication may be the issue. During a string change, I lube the nut, saddles, the two points where the trem springs connect with 3in1 oil. I grease the underside of the string tree(s) with lip balm.

Perhaps the strings are hanging up on the internal components of the bridge assy. I've heard of techs using those small red plastic stir straws that come with a cocktail and run the strings through small sections of the straws during installation to prevent this.


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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:37 pm
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I use a silicon based lubricant on everything. Just my $0.02.


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