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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:43 pm
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Hello Big Jay,

Thanks for that link,
lots of great info going on there.

This is well worth reading.

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Very interesting article!

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Nice link Jay. I was surprised of one most of us all know that they left out -switching between pick and fingers big tone changer.


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Thanks Big Jay. Filed that one in the favorites. Good guitar 101, especially for us beginners.


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Post subject: Re: For us compulsive tone snobs....
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[quote="BigJay"]Not trying to re-hash arguments here, but in light of all the debate about what affects tone on these boards, I found this blog from Gibson pretty interesting. Seems there is a good bit for all in this one...

Seems to me we've touched on all of them at one time or another with a multiplicity of opinions including some very sophisticated analyses based upon principles of physics. Nice to see them all consolidated in a single reference to set the top spinning once again. :wink:

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There are quite a few threads in the Forums on things like maple vs rosewood necks. If you have the time do a "Search".

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:38 pm
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BigJay wrote:
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There are quite a few threads in the Forums on things like maple vs rosewood necks. If you have the time do a "Search".


Thank Doc.

But wait, when do that, they all seem so familiar... :?


Perhaps there IS a common denominator which rings true?

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A bunch of unsubstantiated ideas that must be taken on faith, adherents to various sets of these "truths" arguing endlessly with each other, the idea that there may be a common thread that runs through all of them...

"Tone" is a religion.

Which is fine. Just know that you are taking these things on faith.


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Looks like some really good reading. Thank you for sharing!


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BigJay wrote:
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A bunch of unsubstantiated ideas that must be taken on faith, adherents to various sets of these "truths" arguing endlessly with each other, the idea that there may be a common thread that runs through all of them...

"Tone" is a religion.

Which is fine. Just know that you are taking these things on faith.


Well, the really really really comforting thing, SlapChop, is that now we know that BOTH the Fender pros and the Gibson pros worship at that tone alter. Apparently, they believe there is a lot of factors that influence tone.

Just imagine how much variety one could come up with with an open mind, eh?


Imagine how much closer one could come to the truth with a transcendent mind... one that understands that "superstition ain't the way."

There's a Zen story about a student who got hung up on a line in the sutras that says "the day will come will even the rocks and stones will be enlightened." Why, this doesn't make physical sense... it's counterintuitive! How can rocks and stones become enlightened? He gets so worked up about it he can't meditate anymore. So he goes to his roshi and asks, "What does this mean, here, in the sutra?" And his master says, "What do you care how the rocks and stones become enlightened if you, yourself, are not?"

Or, to be more blunt than ususal, what does anybody care about the scriptures of tone when you, yourself, are a poor, unpracticed guitar player... one, perhaps, with no sense of time or a lousy ear, one who plays with a halting, clunky vibrato or doesn't know anything but licks off records? If you are a bad player, you are a thousand miles from the Path of Tone, and and it does not matter at all what body wood or boost pedal you choose, you will not make music.

Which is supposedly why we picked up a guitar, right?. Not to become connoisseurs of wood grain and true-bypass cicuits... but to make music.


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