Less paint equals better tone?

Twelvebar · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:28 am

Ceri wrote:

Many other embassies in that neighborhood. From its look you could easily mistake this for the real thing. I like the stars on the door...

Cheers - C

Maybe their establishing their own consulate, as a first step in succession!

Miami Mike · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:33 am

nikininja wrote:

The majority of that article is utter garbage. lets go through the points made.

1 ensure all screws are tight. Its obvious.
2. Remove the tremolo cavity cover for better tone. WTF should we all lose our pickguards too. Utter bunkem.
3. Block the trem has. It no effect on sustain or tone.
4. Neck cavity. Free of paint, I'll come to that junk later. There is a point for having wood shims. I cant see 0.5-1mm of wood making a difference in tone. I've shimmed plenty of guitars with leather. Never heard it make a difference one way or the other.
5 Neck stickers. Sorry im not taking mine off, how about we all sand our logo's off the headstock.
6. Let the guitar breathe. I really hope that wood isnt still breathing after its been hacked, sawed and routed. Guitar wood is dead wood it doesnt breathe ever, if it did it would sprout leaves. Paint doesnt affect guitar tone. I've nitro and urethane guitars that i cant hear a difference between them, they have the same pickups.
7. the top of the inertia bar should be as close and tight fit to the tremplate as possible. I've never seen one painted though.
8. How can nut material make a difference to fretted notes. The strings speaking length is shortend away frowm the nut. Saddles and trem, yes. Nut no.
9.Increasing the mass of the guitar does make a change. You need an awfull lot of mass to make a noticable change though. A wooden tables worth of mass. I own a fat finger it was the biggest waste of money i've ever bought.
10. String trees. If you alter the pressure of a string tou alter its tension and pitch.

+1 I had a '69 Strat made of ash that was a tone monster.

TrapperDoo · **Joined:** Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:21 pm **Posts:** 53

Ceri wrote:

Ha - here ya go! Specially for YeeHaw - the Texas Embassy, London:

Many other embassies in that neighborhood. From its look you could easily mistake this for the real thing. I like the stars on the door...

Cheers - C

Now that's really funny! Is the food there any good? Most of the rest of us in the US get a pretty good laugh out of Texans too. They are generally pretty nice people but they do tend to be pretty full of themselves. "In Texas we got this place called the Git-tar Center." I actually had a woman say that to me one time.

Ceri · **Posted:** Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:27 am

TrapperDoo wrote:

Now that's really funny! Is the food there any good? Most of the rest of us in the US get a pretty good laugh out of Texans too. They are generally pretty nice people but they do tend to be pretty full of themselves. "In Texas we got this place called the Git-tar Center." I actually had a woman say that to me one time.

Hi TrapperDoo: well, they do a dish called a Texas Special. Sadly, it's a plate full of ribs, not guitar pickups.

BTW: I do hope no Texans here think I was laughing at them - I definitely wasn't. That place is their joke and I'm laughing with them on it...

Cheers - C

YeeHaw · **Joined:** Sat May 03, 2008 7:54 am **Posts:** 35

That place looks like it could be a mescal-fueled blast! It’s amazing how small the world is becoming. Our neighbor is British and you’ve posted a picture of a Texas honky-tonk in England…are there very many people from Texas in England?

Ceri · **Posted:** Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:56 am

YeeHaw wrote:

That place looks like it could be a mescal-fueled blast! It’s amazing how small the world is becoming. Our neighbor is British and you’ve posted a picture of a Texas honky-tonk in England…are there very many people from Texas in England?

Hi YeeHaw: well there's several hundred thousand American's resident in Britain and only a small proportion of those on military bases. Most just blend in - and there must be a good few Texans amongst 'em.

A very close friend of mine who lived here is from several places in the US, including Texas. Sadly for me he's recently moved to Germany, but on the bright side I took the opportunity to visit him there.

My neighbor who lives across the road is American too, though not from Texas. He's a company lawyer - but really he seems OK...

London's full of American music and film stars too, either working or just taking advantage of a culture that tends to call out at them in the street a little less. I think Madonna has officially departed, but Bob Dylan bought yet another house here recently. I saw Tom Cruise climb out of a car and go into an expensive shop not so long ago. And I'm told David Soul lives nearby - if anyone remembers him...

Cheers - C

SlapChop · **Joined:** Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:41 pm **Posts:** 1257

Ceri wrote:

London's full of American music and film stars too, either working or just taking advantage of a culture that tends to call out at them in the street a little less...

Yeah, that's why you never see music and film stars walking around NY, LA, or San Francisco... they prefer the purified air of London, where people don't giggle and point or ask for autographs, but merely give them a knowing glance and say, "G'mawnin', Mistah Clooney, 'ow's the cinema business going?"

C;mon, Ceri.... don't ask us to believe that the "culture" that produced The Benny Hill Show can stake a claim to any kind of higher plane. You run into famous people in the major cities in the US, too.

Ceri · **Posted:** Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:11 am

BigJay wrote:

I didnt get the impression he was suggesting the USA was somehow lacking or inferior. London is a cultural and financial hub, just like NY, LA, San Fran, etc, and its getting overrun with immigrants of all varieties.

Crikey, I really wasn't, no.

But I do see a procession of starry types on chat shows here saying how they can walk around in public and get a bit less hassled than other places. We're just more stand-off-ish, is all. (Mind, I'm not sure they're all delighted with that...)

The other side of the coin is that they are likely to be pursued by the most invasive tabloid press in the world - as Tom Cruise amongst many others would tell you.

Give it a try why not, SlapChop? You may enjoy the anonymity...

Cheers - C

Twelvebar · **Posted:** Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:07 pm

Ceri wrote:

And I'm told David Soul lives nearby - if anyone remembers him...

Cheers - C

was he Starsky or Hutch? My sister had his god-awful album, and a poster up beside Shaun Cassidy.

My room seemed almost wallpapered with KISS, when I was ten.

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

How does removing the back trem cavity cover improve tone?

Blertles · **Posted:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:22 am

In my opinion, if its bolted together- sealed and laquered or urethaned, electronics screwed onto plastic then screwed to the finished body and bits of metal holding the strings together- its just as acousticly toneful as a burrito untill you plug it in to an amp and switch it on- actually thats the most tonefull thing you can do to a strat- in my opinion.

Also- I am also a believer that CS are feeding it from their hands to a certain type punter...
"Hi, im 50yrs old- I wear a pink shirt, style my hair with product and I drive an Audi TT...." chances if that type of person played a strat- it would be a CS... and he would be a believer that nitro sounds better than poly. but thats a different argument.

Not to dismiss Mike's credibility also- but think of it this way. Do you eat out at a restaurant because you think the chef is a genius? or have you thought that you could cook the same delicious meal at home for a third of the price? because I bet your bottom dollar my deluxe sounds little different acoustically to a mim, your strats, or a CS.

Ceri · **Posted:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:35 am

Twelvebar wrote:

Ceri wrote:

And I'm told David Soul lives nearby - if anyone remembers him...

Cheers - C

was he Starsky or Hutch?...

...Yeah... One or the other...

Actually: although he crops up on TV occasionally he mostly makes his living as a pretty good stage actor, these days. We saw him in a notorious show called Jerry Springer: The Opera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Springer:_The_Opera

Very funny, if you feel like searching out a clip - or a DVD. But be warned, it is in the Guinness Book of Records as the show with the highest level of profanity ever. It was found deeply offensive by people of several religions too. So if likely to be upset by content - avoid!

However, Jerry Springer went to see it and pronounced himself amused...

Cheers - C

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