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It's funny, but I find that the tone knobs on my guitar have the most immediate and pronounced impact on the sounds I'm producing...


Hahahaha. Classic. :D :D :D

BTW i bought my CS guitar because it plays better than anything else i've ever tried.

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I recommend leaving the tone knobs at the factory settings...


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I recommend leaving the tone knobs at the factory settings...


Would that be "on 10" ???

That's usually where my guitars' tone controls are set.

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Hey guys -- first post here but active elsewhere....

I am in the camp that almost everything affects tone, though I doubt your headstock sticker will nor your trem cover, etc. However, the greatest-sounding guitar ever (a 68 Strat?) could be played through a crap amp by someone with less than stellar chops and it would sound bad. So again, everything (within reason!) affects tone, IMO


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WoodyTone wrote:
Hey guys -- first post here but active elsewhere....

I am in the camp that almost everything affects tone, though I doubt your headstock sticker will nor your trem cover, etc. However, the greatest-sounding guitar ever (a 68 Strat?) could be played through a crap amp by someone with less than stellar chops and it would sound bad. So again, everything (within reason!) affects tone, IMO


Woody thats absolutely correct. Everything affects the overall sound of your guitar, thats why you cant make a strat sound like a lespaul. Now what percentage each individual thing contributes is long overdue much speculation.

Everyone knows that 2007 strats have the absolute best tone btw.

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oldguy101 wrote:
I recommend leaving the tone knobs at the factory settings...


Would that be "on 10" ???

That's usually where my guitars' tone controls are set.


See, I find that quite interesting. I have them at different settings depending on the guitar. For the CS '66 I play most often I tend to leave both tone knobs at around 6 or 7... it gives me somewhere to go if I want a more brilliant sound on the neck and/or middle pickups. It's a 3-position switch and the bridge pickup is unaffected by the tone knobs. Because my overdriven sounds are coming from a Mesa V-Twin preamp pedal (which has a reputation -- somewhat deserved -- for favouring "darker" sounds; if you crank the presence too much it sounds a little brittle) I need to set that so that my bridge pickup can give me a thicker-than-the-usual-single-coil sound if required. If I want to get the biting treble back, I use a treble booster in front of the V-Twin.

If I modified my guitar so that the bridge pickup was affected by a tone knob, I'd probably leave it on 10 because I have quite a few other factors contributing to the sound. For the other pickups, though, I don't want to be doing a mad jig, I just need to be able to introduce a little treble or roll it off.

Lastly, there's my amp's tone control... I've just got the one volume, one tone knob, both going from 0 to 11. My guitar on its own sounds nice with the tone at about 4, and with assorted effects added it sounds best up around 5 or 6. I experiment a bit, but mostly I like to set and forget or I'm wallowing in a mire of variables!


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mondo500 wrote:
See, I find that quite interesting. I have them at different settings depending on the guitar. For the CS '66 I play most often I tend to leave both tone knobs at around 6 or 7... it gives me somewhere to go if I want a more brilliant sound on the neck and/or middle pickups.


That sounds like a workable set up. I mostly use the neck pickup, leave the tone controls at 10, and adjust the volume control: about 6 for rhythm and 10 for leads. I flip to the middle or bridge pickups when I want the brilliant sounds (which isn't very often).

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Ahh... yep, I'm with you. Rolling off the volume doesn't usually work out so well with me because I'm not in a position to crank my amp up to that sweet spot just before breakup. I chose to go the V-Twin route rather than an attenuator on a 5-Watt amp, because... well, because I wanted more stuff! Heh. Plus, I can plug headphones into the V-Twin for when the kids are asleep.

I don't use the neck/middle pickups on their own all that much; I've always loved the out-of-phase position 2 (a bit of a balancing act with the 3-way switch, but fun). The tone controls come into their own a bit more when both pickups are involved, I think.


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Big Jay,

Nice response.

The people in the Custom Shop tho, are likely SO skilled, SO attuned to minute variations and nuances of construction and materials and their combinations...

...this picker for sure, and likely a few others of us...

...are not worthy to lick the waxed paper their lunch burritos were wrapped in.


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Lord knows, my ego is larger than most if not all on these boards.


Well now, just hold on there one cotton pickin' moment! There's quite a few of us as wants to take issue with you on that particular claim...! :wink:

Cheers - C

BTW: regarding licking the waxed paper those burritos came in. Well it depends: in my experience there's burritos and there's burritos...


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No offence intended Ceri, but…

I from Texas and everybody down here know, if you wrap them in butcher paper rather than wax paper, it lets the burrito breath! This equals more taste, although some debate this! :D


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YeeHaw wrote:
No offence intended Ceri, but…

I from Texas and everybody down here know, if you wrap them in butcher paper rather than wax paper, it lets the burrito breath! This equals more taste, although some debate this! :D


Everyone knows the most important factor in Burrito taste is how tight you roll the tortilla.

Anyway, if oyu are eating a genuine Fender Commissary Burrito, the butcher paper has a thick under layer of wax paper anyway. maybe the Custom Shop Cafeteria has one with just a 50's style butcher paper, but then I heard they also make chili with beans (that's like putting a floyd rose in a tele!!).

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You need to talk to Chet about burritos as he is a renowned expert on them! :wink: At least on the forums. :)


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