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Post subject: Fret Wire Markings ?
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:39 pm
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hi

just purchased a brand new standard telecaster,

i've been popping strings like crazy and i've traced it to the fact the on every fret wire there are machine made marking or grooves on both sides of fret wire starting at the fretboard level and on some almost to top of fret wire, i've asked around and sent some pics to other fender owners and ALL say this is not normal and i have a warranty issue,

so i'd like to know if anyone else has this problem, and how did you deal with it?


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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:02 am
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Hi standish: why not post one of those pics here, so's we can see what you're talking about?

It certainly doesn't sound like something I've encountered, and it certainly does sound like something that should be addressed under warranty.

Without seeing it, I'm assuming a dressing with a quarter-round file such as this will be part of the treatment, and then a good polish up:

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Fretting_su ... ml#details

Get it looked at under warranty sooner rather than later would seem to be the best course...

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:16 am
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no filing is gonna take out these grooves without replaccing the fret wire

i'd love to post a pic but i dont know how to do it

as far as warranty,

i purchased the guitar and boarded a plane to school in the caribbean for 4 years, cost me more to ship than whats it's worth just so someone call look at it....sigh


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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:43 am
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This is a copy of what I posted on your other post about this.

So you have sprouts and what you are seeing is the tang on the ends. The tang holds the fret in across the board. You have Poorly beveled frets.

I will add the tang is as long as the crown of the fret its one machined piece and proper fret filing and dressing fixes that.

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:00 pm
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sorry but i do not have END issues,

i have indentations, grooves, burrs running across the fret wire

on both sides up to almost the crown level

these are machine made i suspect


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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:13 pm
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Sounds to me like you need to have the frets replaced.

Any Authorized Fender Dealer can handle the warranty repairs or you can find a Guitar Tech and pay for it yourself.

I am surprised you did not notice this before you bought the guitar.

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:26 pm
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Why would a fret crown and polish not get the job done? Is the dent down to the wood?

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:37 pm
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standish wrote:
sorry but i do not have END issues,

i have indentations, grooves, burrs running across the fret wire

on both sides up to almost the crown level

these are machine made i suspect

WOW ! I have never seen that before. That would mean that the whole stretch of fret wire that your frets were cut from was bad so there would be several guitars as such. Take it back to a authorized dealer! I can't guess how they were machined wrong but anything is possible. I have used a few bags of frets over the years thats a new one. You figure a guitar takes about 6 feet of fret wire and its most likely made in stretches of hundreds. That could be a lot of guitars could it not :shock:

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Reading one of your other posts about the guitar i have some points to bring up.
1 fret tops should be as near to round as possible. The rounder the better. When they flatten they need re-crowning.
2 you cant just go over the frets with sandpaper. If i have a particularly bad fret i may give it a wipe with 1500grit wet and dry. To level frets you need a wetstone or fretstone. Then round the fret tops with a diamond cut file or fret crown file if available. I prefer a quarter round rather than half round, i find i have more room to shape the sides rather than the top. Then i go over them with a light metal polish, brasso usually.
3 you've likely voided your warranty concerning the frets/neck. You'll need to pay for a fret job. £90+ in the uk. dunno about anywhere else.

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:05 pm
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The description has had me going wonkey Nik. I have never heard of such thing. Seen many flat, dented, grooved but never a machined line between a crown and the board the lenth of a fret :shock: frets not that high :shock:

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The description has had me going wonkey Nik. I have never heard of such thing. Seen many flat, dented, grooved but never a machined line between a crown and the board the lenth of a fret :shock: frets not that high :shock:


It does seem strange doesn't it? I would love to see closeup pics of this.

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cvilleira wrote:
The description has had me going wonkey Nik. I have never heard of such thing. Seen many flat, dented, grooved but never a machined line between a crown and the board the lenth of a fret :shock: frets not that high :shock:


This is definitely a new one on me too.

It's getting to the point now where we MUST have pictures!

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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:26 am
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Just catching up on this thread.

Possibly I'm missing something that's been said on another thread - otherwise I'm not clear why the warranty has been voided?

Supposing the warranty is in force then standish may not be aware that work under warranty can be carried out at any Authorised Fender Dealer, not only the shop where the guitar was purchased. Don't know whether that works across international borders, however...

Something else I'm not getting: if these marks are on the sides of the frets then do they actually interfere with the playability of the guitar at all? So long as the crowns of the frets are right does it in fact matter, except cosmetically?

We need more info on this one, don't we - and pictures. Very interesting, at any rate.

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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:11 am
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Ceri wrote:

We need more info on this one, don't we - and pictures. Very interesting, at any rate.

Cheers - C

From what i can gather from his post on the telecaster forum. He's taken some 400grit sandpaper to some of the fret tops to try and sort a high fret problem. That has undoubtedly caused the grooves. I cant see how side grooves would break a string, as the string doesnt touch the sides of the fret.

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