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Post subject: What do you think?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:45 am
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Im gunna do a pup swap on one of my Strats.
Im thinking Tex Mex (Bridge), SD SSL-1 (mid) & Fat 50 (neck).
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no way man three humbuckers for the win!!!!



what they hell do you expect people to tell you its the best possible set up ever thought of, its all personal preference, if that is what you like great, the next guy might hate it. it depends on what you like and no one else. so make your choice for what you want to acheive


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Lookin for opinions.

Maybe some of the members might have tried that combo.


Have another energy drink & have a great day in the sun


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sorry man, i have been having a bad day, I should not have taken it out on other people, I do appologise to you. I was wrong and im man enough to say it


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truely sux Curly

You ARE a man & a StratMan!!


All the best from the Island
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thanks,

my health has not been good lately,im kind of a nervous wreck becasue im waiting for the results of the ablominal ultrasounds and abdominal xrays and the 23 blood tests i just did, the doctors tell me I have one foot in the hospital already....ever throw up bile and blood for 18 hours straight after not eating in about half a week? its been a long week, im just hoping its not cancer


no excuse to spread missery around though


but worst of all im up here in the city without my new strat to calm me down


what island you from, vancouver or hawaii


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OOO man

I hope you get good results very soon.


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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:25 pm
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knotty wrote:
Im gunna do a pup swap on one of my Strats.
Im thinking Tex Mex (Bridge), SD SSL-1 (mid) & Fat 50 (neck).
Any feelings?


Craig


Not a bad combo at all.

Bear with me here, I'm thinking out loud.

Premising no blend pot and stock wiring: The TX is the most powerful with the most midrange of the trio so that goes in the bridge position, end of story. The Fat 50 is second most in midrange but the weakest of the three power wise yet still, very close power wise to the SSL-1, which has the least midrange. These latter two are the interchangeable ones.

The two ways I look at this:

1. The TS and the Fat 50 have considerably more midrange than that of the SSL-1 with of course, the TS having the most. So, as you start moving towards the neck, due to the natural properties of the guitar, one might want to consider progressively thinning out the midrange so that by having the SSL-1 in the neck and the Fat 50 in the middle, one would have a crisper tone than if the Fat 50 were in the neck.

2. If one uses positions two and four of the pickup selector switch alot, one would get a superior quack with the SSL-1 there. The only drawback is, if one's stylings are to play in position three of the pickup selector switch alot, the SSL-1 by itself might sound a bit clanky in comparison to positions one and three which would yield a more smoky tonality.

Either way, say one does use the SSL-1 in the neck and wanted the tad more smoky sound the Fat 50 provide, backing off the SSL-1's tone knob a tad would accomplish this. And, if it were in the middle position, backing off the SSL-1's tone knob there would help diminish the clank, thus replicating the Fat 50 here too.

Say a blend pot, push/pull pot or simply a mini-switch was installed: Here again, the crispness of the SSL-1 vs. the more midrangey Fat 50 when the neck and bridge pickups are on together. Naturally, mimicking a Tele's snappiness would clearly be better with the SSL-1 in the neck position when combined with the bridge pickup.

The final analysis, what are the priorities:

1. Stock wiring vs. all pickup possibilities in which case, will any tone pots be sacrificed?
2. Strat quack or Tele snap, which is more important?

Ah, a pleasant problem for sure.

I hope I haven't bored you but I never tried this exact combo myself and you did ask for feelings on the subject!

Good luck with it, I'm sure this will be a winning combination for you regardless of how you configure it!!!

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curley maple wrote:
...no excuse to spread missery around though


curley maple,

This site is somewhat of a combination fraternity/sorority. I would think it safe to say that the vast majority of us do care about each other's well being and if one of us has been shall we say, "smacked down a bit by life", we sympathize and in many cases too, can emphasize with that person. Please, no apology is necessary.

Speaking for the vast majority here, our thoughts and prayers are with you for a speedy and complete recovery.

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Martian wrote:
Speaking for the vast majority here, our thoughts and prayers are with you for a speedy and complete recovery.


Agreed. We all understand that we aren't always at our best when we are down. It takes a big person to admit his wrongs, and apologize.

You are in our thoughts and prayers.

On the original topic. To the OP, martian really knows his stuff, that was a great breakdown.

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Martian wrote:
Speaking for the vast majority here, our thoughts and prayers are with you for a speedy and complete recovery.


Agreed. We all understand that we aren't always at our best when we are down. It takes a big person to admit his wrongs, and apologize.

You are in our thoughts and prayers.

On the original topic. To the OP, martian really knows his stuff, that was a great breakdown.


Thank you!

And thank you for saying to curley maple what I neglected to: "It takes a big person to admit his wrongs, and apologize."

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Martian wrote:
curley maple wrote:
...no excuse to spread missery around though


curley maple,

This site is somewhat of a combination fraternity/sorority. I would think it safe to say that the vast majority of us do care about each other's well being and if one of us has been shall we say, "smacked down a bit by life", we sympathize and in many cases too, can emphasize with that person. Please, no apology is necessary.

Speaking for the vast majority here, our thoughts and prayers are with you for a speedy and complete recovery.

+1

Welcome to the forum, curley maple, and I hope you feel better soon! 8)

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Post subject: Re: What do you think?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:42 pm
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sanx for your thoughts

Martian wrote:
knotty wrote:
Im gunna do a pup swap on one of my Strats.
Im thinking Tex Mex (Bridge), SD SSL-1 (mid) & Fat 50 (neck).
Any feelings?


Craig



1. The TS and the Fat 50 have considerably more midrange than that of the SSL-1 with of course, the TS having the most. So, as you start moving towards the neck, due to the natural properties of the guitar, one might want to consider progressively thinning out the midrange so that by having the SSL-1 in the neck and the Fat 50 in the middle, one would have a crisper tone than if the Fat 50 were in the neck.

2. If one uses positions two and four of the pickup selector switch alot, one would get a superior quack with the SSL-1 there. The only drawback is, if one's stylings are to play in position three of the pickup selector switch alot, the SSL-1 by itself might sound a bit clanky in comparison to positions one and three which would yield a more smoky tonality.

Either way, say one does use the SSL-1 in the neck and wanted the tad more smoky sound the Fat 50 provide, backing off the SSL-1's tone knob a tad would accomplish this. And, if it were in the middle position, backing off the SSL-1's tone knob there would help diminish the clank, thus replicating the Fat 50 here too.


The final analysis, what are the priorities:

1. Stock wiring vs. all pickup possibilities in which case, will any tone pots be sacrificed?
2. Strat quack or Tele snap, which is more important?



I most often play at position 3, also like "Jimmie Vaughan" wiring.
I like your thought about progressive mids. I never thought of that.

Assuming position 3 & "JV" wiring, what would be the tonal possibilities?


tuff question I know

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Martian wrote:
Speaking for the vast majority here, our thoughts and prayers are with you for a speedy and complete recovery.


For sure!

Martian wrote:
1. The TS and the Fat 50 have considerably more midrange than that of the SSL-1 with of course, the TS having the most. So, as you start moving towards the neck, due to the natural properties of the guitar, one might want to consider progressively thinning out the midrange so that by having the SSL-1 in the neck and the Fat 50 in the middle, one would have a crisper tone than if the Fat 50 were in the neck.


When you say "TS" I get the impression you're talking about Texas Specials. The OP said he was looking into a Tex-Mex pickup. I just wanted to point that out since maybe you misread the original post or made a typo. :)

But yeah, you should listen to Martian, he knows his stuff. Be sure and let us know how it turns out when you get your new pickups installed!

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Martian wrote:
Speaking for the vast majority here, our thoughts and prayers are with you for a speedy and complete recovery.


For sure!

Martian wrote:
1. The TS and the Fat 50 have considerably more midrange than that of the SSL-1 with of course, the TS having the most. So, as you start moving towards the neck, due to the natural properties of the guitar, one might want to consider progressively thinning out the midrange so that by having the SSL-1 in the neck and the Fat 50 in the middle, one would have a crisper tone than if the Fat 50 were in the neck.


When you say "TS" I get the impression you're talking about Texas Specials. The OP said he was looking into a Tex-Mex pickup. I just wanted to point that out since maybe you misread the original post or made a typo. :)

But yeah, you should listen to Martian, he knows his stuff. Be sure and let us know how it turns out when you get your new pickups installed!


Thanks for catching that and yes, I did misread it. My thought process remains unchanged though as to my eye, ear and meter, the Tex-Mex is an under wound, modern component made, TS.

One note: There MIGHT be a phasing problem with the TM vs. the other two so verify the phasing first before you wire and button everything up.

And thank you for your compliment!

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