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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:05 pm
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Yes, an on/off switch for the electronics would have been nice, but I just unplug it. And Fender recommends rechargeable batteries.

Gill 8)[/quote]

What rechargable batteries are you using? I just picked up a VG and thought that I would go that route.


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I killed the vg stratocaster :twisted:


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Ok Folks,

Now that I have had just over a week with my new FSR Deluxe VG Strat, I can honestly say that I absolutely love this guitar. The only downside I have found is the battery life (about 3 hours max) and I used the recommended NiMh 2650 mAh Duracell rechargeable batteries. I just had to buy 2 extra sets as they take 8 hours to re-charge. Guitar Center promoted this gutar as an "FSR American Deluxe VG" and although it is a lot different than your regular "American Series VG", the actual specs that Fender gave me doesn't really qualify it as a true "American Deluxe" in the eyes of Fender. Now for the specifics on the FSR American Deluxe VG. I emailed Fender, gave them my serial number, and asked them for the specifications as well as asked how many of the FSR (Factory Special Request) Deluxe VG Strats that they had made. A Fender Rep emailed me back and said that they made 600 of them for Guitar Center in 2008 only, and here are the exact specs:

Model Name: VG Stratocaster® V Neck

Model Number: 011-7552-(731)

Series: VG Stratocaster Series

Body: Alder

Neck: Maple, Soft “V” Shape,

(Satin Polyurethane Finish)

Fingerboard: Maple (p/n 011-7552), 9.5” Radius (241mm)

No. of Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Frets

Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)

Width @ Nut: 1.6875” (43 mm)

Hardware: Chrome

Machine Heads: Fender®/Schaller® Deluxe Staggered Cast/Sealed Tuning Machines

Bridge: American 2-Point Synchronized Tremolo with Stainless Steel Saddles

Pickguard: 3-Ply Parchment

Pickups: 3 American Strat® Single-Coil Pickups, 1 Roland® VG Pickup

Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade: (Functions in All Modes)

Position 1. Bridge Pickup

Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup

Position 3. Middle Pickup

Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup

Position 5. Neck Pickup

Controls: Master Volume,

Master Tone,

Tuning Function Control (5 Rotary Positions),

Mode Control (5 Rotary Modes)

Colors: (731) Aged Cherry Burst,

(Polyurethane Finish)

Strings: Fender® Super Bullets® 3250L, Nickel Plated Steel, (.009 to .042), p/n 073-3250-003

Unique Features: Roland VG Circuitry,

Five Guitar Tone Banks Deliver 16 Sounds from Humbucking to Acoustic,

Five Tuning Banks Allow You to Change Tunings Without Physically Retuning - You Can Use Multiple Tunings in One Song,

“Parchment” Knobs and Pickup Covers,

Original Headstock Shape,

Original Body Shape with “Original Contour Body” Decal on Headstock,

Rolled Fingerboard Edges,

H/S/H Pickup Routing

Source: U.S.

Accessories: High-Tech, Molded Rectangular SKB® Case

U.S. MSRP: $2,449.99

Specs: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice

INTRODUCED: 8/2008

DISCONTINUED

DISCONTINUED COLORS:

COMMENTS: FSR for GC in 2008

WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod Adjustment Wrench, (1/8” Hex), P/N 0023811000,

Tilt Adjust Rod Wrench, P/N 0018622000 (3/32” Hex)

Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench, (.050” Hex), P/N 0018531000
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Hope that this helps anyone who wants to know more about this guitar. I twouldn't have paid the MSRP of $2,449.99 for it (and didn't), but I thought that the $1200.00 that I paid for it on clearance was well worth the money.

It is very different than the other VG Strats and with only 600 made, it should also be a good collectors item in addition to be being a great playing guitar.

Eric


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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:14 am
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Guitarman,

'Personally see the Mosrite as a Ferrari, no way an Avanti.

And earlier simile which came to mind on a VG without batteries...it's still a hot car driving around town, but slip a charged pack in it and it's like taking the plates off the side pipes and putting on the competition tires.

And y' know folks, 'tried a VG several times recently and it's definitely growing on this picker...the batteries-out mode definitely revealed a happy, alive and well American Standard, ready to got out for a ride.


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The reason I compared a Mosrite to an Avanti (or maybe a DeTomaso-Pentera?) is because of current production.... follow my thinking now? Besides, I owned 2 Mosrites (back in the day) and neither one played all that well, although the first one, a red Mosrite Jr., is super rare now and was, sad to say, stolen out of my car by some jerk in 'wonderful' NYC. The other, a 'Celebrity' model, similar to a Gibson ES-335, was no comparison to the Gibson. Quality, craftsmanship, pickups and playability were lousy. It is no wonder they went out of business. Oh, I'm sure that Semi Mosley personally hand-crafted some real beauties for the Ventures, but for the most part, after they were foreign-factory made, the 'venture' tanked big-time. Cheap electronics, shoddy fret work and the bad (knock out of tune) single-spring tremolo killed it.
Therefore, only the original pre-factory Ventures models could, in any way, be compared even to an Avanti, let alone a Ferrari. There are at least 4 companies making 'copies' currently; Wilson Brothers, Dillion, Aria and some 'retro' guitar maker, none of which are big sellers. If you ever decide to invest in a Mosrite, be VERY sure it is a "Pre" and not a "Post". I believe that either Gruhn or Ed Roman Guitars (Las Vegas) can tell you.


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Ok Folks,

Now that I have had just over a week with my new FSR Deluxe VG Strat, I can honestly say that I absolutely love this guitar. The only downside I have found is the battery life (about 3 hours max) and I used the recommended NiMh 2650 mAh Duracell rechargeable batteries. I just had to buy 2 extra sets as they take 8 hours to re-charge. Guitar Center promoted this gutar as an "FSR American Deluxe VG" and although it is a lot different than your regular "American Series VG", the actual specs that Fender gave me doesn't really qualify it as a true "American Deluxe" in the eyes of Fender. Now for the specifics on the FSR American Deluxe VG. I emailed Fender, gave them my serial number, and asked them for the specifications as well as asked how many of the FSR (Factory Special Request) Deluxe VG Strats that they had made. A Fender Rep emailed me back and said that they made 600 of them for Guitar Center in 2008 only, and here are the exact specs:


Hope that this helps anyone who wants to know more about this guitar. I twouldn't have paid the MSRP of $2,449.99 for it (and didn't), but I thought that the $1200.00 that I paid for it on clearance was well worth the money.

It is very different than the other VG Strats and with only 600 made, it should also be a good collectors item in addition to be being a great playing guitar.

Eric


I purchased one awhile back and was told it was a limited edition, however the only thing limited about it was the color, my response from Fender is below,

"The Blizzard Pearl color on the VG Strat is indeed a limited edition color and we will only be making 479 of them."


So 600 of the FSR's, and 479 of the Blizzard Pearl, they must have sold those!!!

I love my VG TOO, its a fantastic playing guitar and the electronics are the bonus. It really sounds great through my Mesa Boogie Express on the 5 watt setting. The harmonics really sing.

Brad


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Thank you, Guitarman. 'Was speaking of a mid-late 60s Mk I Ventures model or recent genuine '65 USA reissue Mosrite. 'Have had the pleasure of learning first-hand over the decades from Gruhn, Roman and a few other Mosrite-savvy folks and experiencing some of the instruments.

And still hold; one of the above Mosrites is a Ferrari Testarosa of a guitar. Impeccable build quality and playability and looks and handles as fast as an SR-71, even on the ground. Closest Fender encountered is an American Deluxe Stratocaster or a really, really, really nice Jazzmaster.

No wonder most Mk Is encountered at shows are beat-to-poop; those girls WANT to be played.

And back on threads...VG still be calling.


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I have no doubt that there are some Mosrites out there that haven't been (as you say) "beat-to-poop" and yet play beautifully.... however, I haven't been blessed with a personal opportunity to confirm that.... yet.

What I have encountered over the last 45 years in the business are two types of "beat-to-poop".... one being the 'begged to be played' wear. The other is one of built-in quality lacking;

I had (and used) a Gibson Deluxe Sunburst LP for 8 years on the road, 6 nights a week. In the 8th year, after going from standard 40-45 minute R&R dance sets to 60-80 minute show sets, the LP was too much for my shoulder. I sold the LP and began using a lighter weight Hamer double cut-away guitar (like the Gibson double cut TV model). It lasted about a year and didn't hold up anywhere near as well as the LP did after 8 years of constant use. Transition happened back in 1980 and I'll bet the LP is still going, but I wouldn't doubt the Hamer hit the dump ages ago. I tried a Gibson Victory next and that was a bomb (in design), so I got me a Strat! I used that white contemporary for a few years but was not happy with the all-metal nut clamp. I got my hands on a PRS in '88. I now have added 2 Strats & a Parker to my arsenal. I plan on getting a new Jagmaster soon, as I started out my career with all 3 colors of the original Mustang and can do things on a 24 incher that just can't quite be managed on a 25.5, 25 or even a 24.75 scale. When I owned the Mustangs (1 at a time) I really wanted a Jaguar & the Jagmaster satisfies both of those desires in one axe.
BTW: One Strat is a sunburst HSS and the other is a Koa SSS. I added a coil-tap to the humbucker and a Villex tone booster to the Koa. Both are well-moded with Dunlop StrapLoks, Grover Auto-Locks and other nice up-grades such as pearl-capped Tele-type knobs, etc.


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Guitarman, thanks for the synopsis. You 'been around....

So, some instruments have worn well, and others have fallen apart because they did not have the inherent great materials and build-quality. Makes sense.

And a rosewood / 3-colour burst AS VG is calling, "Adopt me and love me, spare me the shame of being a 'discontinued model, laughe at and pitied by all the in-production cool guitars and amps....."


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I picked up a Blizzard Pearl VG a few weeks back :D
My impressions so far. I like the guitar. The modeling isn't bad, and tracks very well in my opinion.
For a guitar to use live, it has been great, as I no longer have to take two acoustic guitars out of the house and worry about anything happening to either one.
I do wish that there was an interface and software to be able to use a PC editor to modify the settings. That would have been a big plus to me.
The blue LED is annoying. Way to bright :shock:
Battery life is ok. I use the 2650's and have two sets along with one set of 2450's.
All in all, I'm happy with the VG... But I wouldn't have bought it for 1700.00.
For the prices they were blew out at, great bargain in my opinion 8)


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Well, as good a guitar as it is (or was), I'm sure Fender isn't going to give up on the concept. Far too much R&D was obviously put into it to abandon and scrap the entire project. They made one serious effort to improve the VG over the original and may only be 'taking a breather' to re-evaluate it, re-design it and change certain features to better please their customers.

While a lot of working guitarists are wireless, catering to that exclusively was a definite mistake. Keeping the battery cavity & adding the option of an 'out-of-body' power source is probably at the top of the 're-do' list.

As for the blue light, it shouldn't be ON until the batteries begin to get low and even then it should blink. It may not've drawn much power from the batteries, but apparently just being on was an irritation to many owners.

Most certainly, an interface connection should also be included in the next incarnation of the VG...... & maybe this time, the new & better version will be the "VGX", eh? Naturally, all this assumes that the people at Fender are actually listening to their customers feedback and taking it seriously. We shall see.... eventually.... I hope.


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The blue light comes on as soon as you plug it in and stays on - kind of a reminder that you're drawing battery power even in "regular" strat mode. It starts to blink when they get low.


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Wow the VG is really taking a beaten. There have been a few on ebay in mint condition not even selling for 8-9 hundred-ouch


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[quote="wheresyourworld"]

The American Deluxe V-neck is a version I had asked about when the guitar was orignially introduced. I was told then, that neck would not be available. It eventually came so.

An American Standard VG V-neck was another of my inquiries when THAT guitar was introduced. I was told the same. Thence cometh the FSR, at a time when I had just purchased an '89 Clapton and was awaiting the Gilmour.

Siezing opportunities by the short hairs is something I also took advantage of in April of this year. At the time there were 35 FSR guitars remaining nationally.

The American Deluxe guitar was the product in which the SCN pickups were introduced, as well as the S-1 system. In lieu of the S-1, Guitar Center installed the Roland electronics. Hence, it is, in all respects, an enhanced American Deluxe Stratocaster. My only other preference would have been Sienna Sunburst/Ash as opposed to Aged Cherry/Alder in that the Sienna does the grain better justice.

As with the Clapton, one must remember to remove the cable from the guitar when not in use.

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I bought one of the Sienna Sunburst American Deluxe VG Strats in 2008. I am very satisfied with it. The sounds it can produce with the SCN pickups (without the S1 switching system) are close to my 50th aniversary Strat which has the S1 system, just not as many choices. I own 8 strats including a 96 Lonestar so I am not stuck playing the VG if I don't want to. I think it is a great addition to my collection and have no interest in selling it. If I found an incredible deal on another just like it I would consider buying it, but I have Guitar Acquisition Syndrom (GAS) in the worst way. Over 40 guitars in the collection and still going (somebody stop me!). I do realize this "odd" Strat is not for everyone and won't work in all situations. Did anyone else see the guy on E-Bay asking $5,500 for his American Deluxe VG? That seems a bit excessive. But who knows, he might even get it.


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