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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:42 am
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Hey guys. I'm interested in recording my music, but getting a good sound.

DO u guys recommend any specific audio interfaces to use. audio interfaces are the boxes that your mic's/guitar plug into. that box runs a usb/firewire chord into your computer.

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If you wanna great result, SSL (solid state logic), average ones, I think Samson....


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You won't get a better result with an SSL interface than with a MOTU or ProSonus or whatever (an SSL interface isn't an SSL console). They're all about the same, the all have the same onboard clocks, etc. The more expensive ones have nicer converters, but even the cheap converters sound as good as the mega-buck studio converters from 10 years ago.

The most important thing is still learning to use your gear and feeding it a good-sounding signal (i.e., making sure the instrument sounds good before you record it).

Make sure you really evaluate your needs (what do you want to do with this gear?) and know what you want before you buy anything. No point in buying 16 channels of pristine conversion when all your really needed was two so you could record yourself jamming over tracks.


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SlapChop wrote:
You won't get a better result with an SSL interface than with a MOTU or ProSonus or whatever (an SSL interface isn't an SSL console). They're all about the same, the all have the same onboard clocks, etc. The more expensive ones have nicer converters, but even the cheap converters sound as good as the mega-buck studio converters from 10 years ago.

The most important thing is still learning to use your gear and feeding it a good-sounding signal (i.e., making sure the instrument sounds good before you record it).

Make sure you really evaluate your needs (what do you want to do with this gear?) and know what you want before you buy anything. No point in buying 16 channels of pristine conversion when all your really needed was two so you could record yourself jamming over tracks.


i know what i need. i need a device with at least 2 mic channels. compatible with a mac. and i preferably firewire. it is a for a home studio.

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SlapChop wrote:
You won't get a better result with an SSL interface than with a MOTU or ProSonus or whatever (an SSL interface isn't an SSL console). They're all about the same, the all have the same onboard clocks, etc. The more expensive ones have nicer converters, but even the cheap converters sound as good as the mega-buck studio converters from 10 years ago.

The most important thing is still learning to use your gear and feeding it a good-sounding signal (i.e., making sure the instrument sounds good before you record it).

Make sure you really evaluate your needs (what do you want to do with this gear?) and know what you want before you buy anything. No point in buying 16 channels of pristine conversion when all your really needed was two so you could record yourself jamming over tracks.


i know what i need. i need atleast 2 mic channels. mac compatible . preferably firewire .

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have you take a look around the audio/music store near you? who knows you can find 1 or 2 channel audio interface that compatible with Mac... :)

And more reasonable price :D


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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:19 am
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well, i dont record much, but i have a mobile pre usb audio interface that works pretty good for a good price, too. m-audio makes them. there are two instrument line-ins, two microphone line-ins, a stereo mic line-in, two ouputs for monitors, headphone jack, and a stereo output. there is also a phantom power switch. you can find them online or at guitar center. or anywhere else that sells sound equipment.


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This is the Fender Stratocaster forum, not the home recording forum.


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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:16 am
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Gotta disagree with Jim. While a good set of monitors is important, if all you are using is a standard sound card, all they are going to do is show you how crappy that sound card is. These days there are two many high quality interfaces at budget prices, it doesn't make sense. It works, but...

I would probably stick to a USB 2.0 interface over firewire. It's more universally available on machines, tends to have better driver support, not to mention faster buss speed.

You can get great multi channel interfaces that support 24 bit recording, direct monitoring, and comes with useful software for a couple of hundred bucks. It is money well spent. M-Audio, Emu, Digidesign, Yamaha, Edirol , even Line Six all make great product. The line 6 studio x2 has two mic ins, two line ins, and instrument in, and comes with Line six's outstanding Amp Farm software. For two hundred bucks. That is a crazy good deal for the price of a pedal or two.

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You know...Studios usually have a pair of Auratones or little JBL 6301 sitting there to A-B with their big monitors, under the theory that if it sounds good on the little speakers too, you have well balanced mix. I know that whenever I do a mix, I'll check it on several sources, including headphones, and a car stereo.

Like I said, you seem concerned about hearing a decent mix, but then discount the distortion, aliasing, lag and crappy frequency curves of cheap 16 bit audio cards. If you can't hear the difference between a cheap soundcard and a dedicated interface then those monitors are being wasted anyway. Whenever an engineer says "we can fix it in the mix" you know you are in trouble.
You know the old saying - garbage in, garbage out.

Since the question wasn't about what he should spend more funds on, but what were some good options for interfaces, I thought I would address the actual question, instead of sharing my personal acoustic philosophies.

Just sayin'...

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Jim -
Once again, you missed the point. The point was the poster asked for some suggestions, and you went off on a non relevant tangent without any information that was actually pertinent to your contribution. The question wasn't about monitors. I understand that you think it's important, and you want to share that...But perhaps the poster already has the issue under control?

Let's say I walked into a store, and you were the salesman...If I asked you to recommend a good audio interface, told you what features I wanted, and you immediately started telling me what I really need were a pair of good monitors (without even stopping to ask if perhaps I already had a pair), I would turn around and walk out the door.

As far as your technical analysis, I'm just going to leave that alone.
You've already said that you're going to believe what you believe, and my opinion won't change that, so I won't bother trying. As long as you are happy with the results, and your system works for your applications, then more power to you.

No Offense.

FWIW...I am a professional sound engineer, and have been for 32 years, so perhaps I do have a different perspective on things. Chalk it up to lessons learned.

I have clients to answer to...Even if they don't know what they are doing, it's my job to do it right anyway, then make them think it was their idea all along.

It's why I make the big bucks...(okay ,that's a joke...sound engineers don't make $@!&.)

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