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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 5:20 pm
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Including the 3bolt attrocity and elephant skin thick finish.

I really suggest you own a customshop for a couple of months before making claims like that.

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Including the 3bolt attrocity and elephant skin thick finish.

I really suggest you own a customshop for a couple of months before making claims like that.

no desires i have played them and i have
found no differnce in tone or feel compared to a good production
strat. i'll stick to paying $900 to $1,300 for a strat.
$3,000 is a complete joke.

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I didnt notice the difference till about 2 months in. Its hard to put into words the way the guitar differentiates from a regular strat. Theres something about it that i just havent found on other strats. A subtle thing but definately there. The other thing is that i got it for the price of a deluxe and less than a vintage hotrod. Initialy i bought it to sell in a couple of years when the economy improves. Theres no chance of that happening now though.

BTW i'd never say cbs were inherantly bad guitars i have played some crackers that i'd love to of owned. Even though i dont like them big headstocks. They did have a few flaws though, as do all guitars.

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I didnt notice the difference till about 2 months in. Its hard to put into words the way the guitar differentiates from a regular strat. Theres something about it that i just havent found on other strats. A subtle thing but definately there. The other thing is that i got it for the price of a deluxe and less than a vintage hotrod. Initialy i bought it to sell in a couple of years when the economy improves. Theres no chance of that happening now though.

BTW i'd never say cbs were inherantly bad guitars i have played some crackers that i'd love to of owned. Even though i dont like them big headstocks. They did have a few flaws though, as do all guitars.


eddie van halen (frakenstrat)
jimi hendrix
eric clapton
robin trower
tommy bolen
they all play'd reagular strats
nothing special no S-1 switch no rolled frett edges
and a few other things just reagular $@! kicking strats.

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because that was all that was available to them. Clapton amalgamated a shop full of 50's strats to get blackie. EVH soon went to his own much messed around design. Hendrix's best stuff (are you experienced) was recorded with a 64/65 small headstock, and the strat was the only guitar he could make sound decent live. His V sound was deplorable. Procul Harems best piece was recorded in 67 so its highly unlikely recorded witha 70's strat.

Just because they didnt have it doesnt mean their guitars were stock. People have been modding strats since 54.

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because that was all that was available to them. Clapton amalgamated a shop full of 50's strats to get blackie. EVH soon went to his own much messed around design. Hendrix's best stuff (are you experienced) was recorded with a 64/65 small headstock, and the strat was the only guitar he could make sound decent live. His V sound was deplorable. Procul Harems best piece was recorded in 67 so its highly unlikely recorded witha 70's strat.

Just because they didnt have it doesnt mean their guitars were stock. People have been modding strats since 54.

we were also talking about the bell and whistles that the strat
have to. nik dont try to make me look stupid when it comes
to strat 'm pretty smart you and few others here already tried
to make me look stupid and FAILED! if you dont like what
post dont reply or read it.

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Goes for me too mate.
though i'm not trying to make you look stupid. Im honestly not like that. Notice i chose to make peace with you. Why after that would i seek to argue with you. I'm not. Its that simple.

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One note, improvement of design does happen over time. Its pretty much requirement in a ever shifting market such as musical instruments. Also bad design gets weeded out and dies off (fender katana for instance).

\natural selection at its best.

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I have no doubt that if the guitars of today with the bells and wistles were around in the 60's and 70's the greats of the time would have been playing them. It is a Reason that many of them back then altered there gear with the things and in ways that they liked.

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I have no doubt that if the guitars of today with the bells and wistles were around in the 60's and 70's the greats of the time would have been playing them. It is a Reason that many of them back then altered there gear with the things and in ways that they liked.

ok but they wernt so your point is what?

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Actualy they were. Mosrite on your side of the water watkins and vox on this side.

some interesting reading
http://www.tymguitars.com.au/mosriteinfo_history_pics01.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vox_Phantom

http://www.watkinsguitars.co.uk/rapiers.htm

Brian jones of the stones was quite famous for his vox teardrop. The ventures used mosrite exclusively. Everyone in england played a watkins at some point, then went on to buy a better burns.

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alwaysstrat wrote:
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I have no doubt that if the guitars of today with the bells and wistles were around in the 60's and 70's the greats of the time would have been playing them. It is a Reason that many of them back then altered there gear with the things and in ways that they liked.

ok but they wernt so your point is what?

What do you mean that was the point the only reason they did not play Strat guitars with bells and whistles was they did not have them like they do now. Given if the options then, were as now I think they would have been playing the guitars with the bells and whistles. Those bells and whistles are part of the evolving of the Strat to become a better playing instrument and I am sure Fender takes into account the feedback of a lot of musicians when adding them just as they did 50 years ago.

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cvilleira wrote:
I have no doubt that if the guitars of today with the bells and wistles were around in the 60's and 70's the greats of the time would have been playing them. It is a Reason that many of them back then altered there gear with the things and in ways that they liked.

ok but they wernt so your point is what?

What do you mean that was the point the only reason they did not play Strat guitars with bells and whistles was they did not have them like they do now. Given if the options then, were as now I think they would have been playing the guitars with the bells and whistles. Those bells and whistles are part of the evolving of the Strat to become a better playing instrument and I am sure Fender takes into account the feedback of a lot of musicians when adding them just as they did 50 years ago.

not interested in anything you say CV
the point is they didnt use strats with all this useless stuff.
i'm done here

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