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Post subject: 2-point vs. 6-point trem
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:46 am
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Hey team -

Just wondering...

1) What are the pros & cons of the 2-point tremolo and 6-point tremolo?
2) Why do some 2008 American Strats have 2-point and some have 6-point?

I have a 2008 American Std. It has a 2-point trem but I've seen others on eBay with 6-points...?!?!? Maybe the seller made a mistake...???

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DC


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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:07 am
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'Have an old Am Std with 2-point and 50s reissue with 6.

Personally, 'can't tell the diff enough to have a preference.


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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:02 pm
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Big Jay -

Super...thanks for the reply.

Got another question: I'm thinking about a guitar-building project for me and my 9-year old son. Have you ever built one with parts from Warmoth or one of the other mfrs?

DC


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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:51 pm
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dfc wrote:
Big Jay -

Super...thanks for the reply.

Got another question: I'm thinking about a guitar-building project for me and my 9-year old son. Have you ever built one with parts from Warmoth or one of the other mfrs?

DC


The big name guys (Warmoth, USA, etc.) all build great bodies and necks. Just be warned, if you think you will save money by building it yourself, you will be disappointed. By the time you buy all the parts, paint etc. it will cost(conservatively) at least as much as a good used Strat. Most likely @ the price of a new one. It is a great learning experience though and really fun to boot!!

If I was doing one with my kid, I would either buy a copyocaster and redo it or maybe a Carvin kit.

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:05 pm
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BigJay wrote:
The 6pt is the "traditional" style. Its what the vintage strats had that werent "hard-tails". There is nothing wrong with the 6pt bridge/trem. But the 6pt bridge is held in place by 6 screws that screw into the body wood. These screws should not be too tight to restrict the tremolo function, but this means the tremolo is putting stress on the wood where the screws are and could loosen or even strip...theoretically anyway.

The 2pt is a newer innovation, but its not new. The 2pt system is designed to minimize the potential dampening affect of the bridge/body on the strings while maximizing string/trem tension balance. The 2pt bridge isnt actually connected to the body. Rather, it balances on two pivot points and is held in place by equal tension forces applied by the strings and tremolo springs.

I suspect many would argue that the 2pt is superior, but there a probably just as many out there that say they have no troubles with their 6pt. The 2pt is probably more expensive and, personally, I would prefer it to the 6pt for a number of reasons.


I have never seen a vintage style bridge ripped from a guitar ( not saying it couldn't happen) but I have seen the wood split around the ferrells that the two point post are screwed into though


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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:35 pm
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I never heard of a traditional bridge breaking off either. Not even with Jimi or Stevie yanking away at it. I'd dismiss that concern.

I'd always heard that the reason for the 2 point was the theory that it would return to a neutral position and stay in tune better.

I've also heard the argument that the 6 pt makes contact with the body and that is better for tone. Mr. Beck seems to sound pretty good with the 2 pt, tough.

I just don't like the feel of the 2 pts I've tried and since I stopped floating the bridges it makes even more sense to me.


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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:19 pm
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Jay -

Let's see a pic of the "Kickassocaster".

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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:14 am
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Big J -

Awesome! I prefer the narrower headstock but my first 2 strats had the 70's style.

My current strat is the 3-tone sunburst with rosewood, 2008, #Z7170862. Classic beauty. (I named her "Sheba" ("Bathsheeba") because I feel almost like I pay more attention to her than my wife!)

Good job.

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I like it how with my american standard bridge the vibrato range is wider so you can pull or push and the string will go higher in tune or lower than a 6 point bridge :)


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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:56 pm
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So the two-point bridge will always float? Or can you set it up so it's flush with the body?


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