short scale strat

stratstang · **Posted:** Fri May 01, 2009 6:35 am

I made up my name because I have a couple of strats and a mustang, but it got me to thinking, wouldn't it be cool if Fender put out a short scale Strat? The mustang is fun to play, a little easier for a beginner b/c of the shorter scale, how about all the benefits of a strat - three pups, contour body, classic look, with the shorter neck? Think Fender will pay me a royalty if they produce it :wink:

? They could even call it the Stratstang :lol:

Synkronized · **Posted:** Sat May 02, 2009 5:59 pm

I'd love a 24 inch scale stratocaster

Flashback From the 60's · **Joined:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:39 am **Posts:** 1516

I have just received confirmation of shipment of two 24" scale necks (from Warmoth) that I am fitting to a Strat Body I have.

Everything on it will have to be moved up by 1.5" and it will have as much hardware from the old Strat as possible.

Am hoping it will have a feel close to my '62 AV Jaguar even though the board radius will be compound 10" to 16" rather than 7.25" as on the Jag.
One neck is maple with ebony board and "Thin" Profile which should be closest in feel to the Jag, the other is all ebony with a "Boat" Profile which I'm hoping will be closer to the feel of an Eric Johnson.

Hope to have everything done by mid May and will post photos.

Ceri · **Posted:** Sun May 03, 2009 5:29 am

Flashback From the 60's wrote:

I have just received confirmation of shipment of two 24" scale necks (from Warmoth) that I am fitting to a Strat Body I have.

Everything on it will have to be moved up by 1.5" and it will have as much hardware from the old Strat as possible...

Hi Flashback: are you sure? Maybe I misunderstood: I was under the impression you were buying Warmoth's "conversion" necks, which are constructed so's they'll work on a Strat without moving the bridge.

If there's doubt on the matter, when they arrive fit one to a Strat body and then measure from the nut to the breaking point on the top e string saddle to be certain...

Cheers - C

soggycrow · **Joined:** Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:57 am **Posts:** 602

Ceri wrote:

Flashback From the 60's wrote:

I have just received confirmation of shipment of two 24" scale necks (from Warmoth) that I am fitting to a Strat Body I have.

Everything on it will have to be moved up by 1.5" and it will have as much hardware from the old Strat as possible...

Hi Flashback: are you sure? Maybe I misunderstood: I was under the impression you were buying Warmoth's "conversion" necks, which are constructed so's they'll work on a Strat without moving the bridge.

If there's doubt on the matter, when they arrive fit one to a Strat body and then measure from the nut to the breaking point on the top e string saddle to be certain...

Cheers - C

You're right of course. You can't just move everything by an inch and a half and have it work. The frets will all be in the wrong places.

There are advantages to a longer scale. It's easier to play up high on the neck with a longer scale.

Flashback From the 60's · **Joined:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:39 am **Posts:** 1516

By using the neck on my Jag as an example, the neck length and fret size (length) are shorter than on a Strat.

The measurements I have made so far are from the nut to the bridge, which is different on the Jag and Strat.

Warmoth short scale (24") necks will fit into a Strat body pocket but from what they indicate, the bridge will need to be moved towards the neck from it's existing position on a Strat body
.
This is different if buying a Strat replacement neck from them. I'll certainly know by Wedensday when they arrive.

InsideMan · **Posted:** Sun May 03, 2009 2:02 pm

Hi, guys. Been lurking for a while. Been playing Gibsons/Epiphones for years but acquired my first Strat recently, a MIM sunburst with rosewood fingerboard--I love the feel and sound.

Anyway, I found the following on the Warmouth site:

Quote:

Conversion Necks

Conversion necks are another Warmoth innovation in guitar customization. We have been making conversion necks for years and the concept is to change the scale of the guitar without modifying the body. This is not a totally new concept, the early Mustang guitars could be had with either 22.5" or 24" scale necks; the same body would accept either neck without modification. Our initial objective was to offer the traditional Gibson scale length of 24 ¾" to fit the Fender guitars and these have proven themselves unique in the market. Later we went the opposite direction and created the 28 5/8” scale length Baritone Conversion neck to bring a deeper tone to the guitar. Either of these necks may be substituted for your original 25.5” scale neck without body modification. Of course you will need to tune and re-intonate he guitar to match the new scale. This is a very easy conversion and allows you a relatively inexpensive way to experience something new on with your old Fender.

The scale length of a guitar is actually the string length. Simply measuring from the playing side of the string nut to the break over point of the string on the bridge will give you the scale. Usually though we'd measure to the 12th fret (half scale) and double this number, as strings usually intonate a little longer than actual scale (has to do with action height and the distance the string is depressed when fretting, amongst other things).

If you are building a custom guitar you may choose from the three scales we offer and our standard bodies will accept these necks perfectly, just the same as if you put them on a Strat body. Easy, huh?

Cheers.

zontar · **Joined:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:48 pm **Posts:** 2315

One reason I enjoy my Mustang is the short scale.

If I'm trying to learn a new song, and having trouble with it I try it on the Mustang--it seems easier to learn some things on.

Then when I get it on the Mustang, it's easier to transfer that to a different guitar.

I also find it easier to bend & do finger vibrato on a short scale--there's less string tension. But that helped me develop my technique--which again I can transfer to another guitar as well.

But mostly I enjoy my Mustang because it's just so much fun to play.

ZZDoc · **Posted:** Sun May 03, 2009 4:16 pm

stratstang wrote:

I made up my name because I have a couple of strats and a mustang, but it got me to thinking, wouldn't it be cool if Fender put out a short scale Strat? The mustang is fun to play, a little easier for a beginner b/c of the shorter scale, how about all the benefits of a strat - three pups, contour body, classic look, with the shorter neck? Think Fender will pay me a royalty if they produce it :wink:

? They could even call it the Stratstang :lol:

A Stratocaster in it's original incarnation, is what it is because of the scale,

Surfabilly · **Posted:** Sun May 03, 2009 4:45 pm

I'm planning to do several partscasters, in the coming future, that I'll call "Jagcasters" for having either a Tele or Strat body, but Jaguar pickups, switching and tremolo. The first 2 "Jagcasters" will have Tele bodies - one with 2 Jag pickups (that I already have, from an MIJ Jaguar), and one with just a Jaguar bridge pickup, and Esquire style wiring. Then I'll do a "Jagcaster" based on a Strat body with...you guessed it...three Jaguar pickups, with switching modeled after my Bass VI. For all three, the Jag-style pickup switches will be mounted where the blade switch would go, and to get everything as Jaguar-esque as I can, without just buying a Jaguar, I'll put 24" scale necks on them.

Matt

Flashback From the 60's · **Joined:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:39 am **Posts:** 1516

I am looking to accomplish:

Shorter Scale necks allow more fret coverage for my sore joints.

A flatter neck radius allows for easier chording, at least for me.

I have some extra parts laying around that will be nice to use up.

I have enjoyed modifying things to make them more personal.

In the past I have modified:
Electronics - especially CD players in the mid to late 1980's - Tube power amps in the mid 1970's and JBL and Altec Lansing speakers in the 1970's.

I will admit that not all my modification projects were successful nor necessarily better than the original, but it was fun and kept me out of trouble !

Flashback From the 60's · **Joined:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:39 am **Posts:** 1516

I did do some measuring yesterday.
The length from the center of the saddle to the bottom of the nut is
25.5" +/- 1/32" on the Strat and 24" on the Jaguar.
The length of each fret space is different on both necks (shorter on the Jag), so I am comfortable with moving everything up towards the neck by 1.5".
Will update as progress is made.

JSJH · **Posted:** Wed May 06, 2009 10:33 am

Thougt here is, just get a Jaguar. It is short scale and much more fun than first thought, an eminnently cool and tres flexible many-sounds axe in its own right.

Flashback From the 60's · **Joined:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:39 am **Posts:** 1516

I already have a 62 AV Jaguar which is wonderful.
Am trying to get the sounds from a Strat but with a shorter scale and a flatter radius.
The plus is that I get to play around getting it done and while it may not be as pretty, it's much less money than trying to get the Fender Custom Shop to do one.

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