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Post subject: My Rehearsal Space
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:14 am
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Hey StratHeads-

So I thought I would share with you all. Its Called "The Fort" and its a Co-Op. We pay $80.00 a month for our time slot of 5 hours per week. It has an alarm system, security gate and 875 sq ft or rehearsal space with its own PA system and mics.

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Here is our Flag..Saved from a $@! burning:

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Here is My spot during rehearsal...its close to the beer-

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Here is a shot of my home "Garage Studio"-

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It works for me..... Share your space-

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:38 am
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I built a sound-proof room in the house. Works great. You can't hear much outside.

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:47 am
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Hey Shredd6-

Great Room- I want to do that someday- perhaps build an addition and sound proof it- but today...The neighbors get to hear me play the blues.

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:24 am
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It was actually cheaper than I thought. It cost about $350 to do it.

I got the 3" foam from an upholstery place. It came in 6'x8' sheets. The blue foam underneath was a whopping $20 from Lowes. I screwed the blue foam on the walls, sprayed the black foam to the blue foam with a contact adhesive, and screwed the borders. I didn't want to spray directly to the walls. It's not in the pics, but I did use leftover scraps to cover the windows.

But yea, there really wasn't much to it.


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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:42 am
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Shredd6 wrote:
It was actually cheaper than I thought. It cost about $350 to do it.

I got the 3" foam from an upholstery place. It came in 6'x8' sheets. The blue foam underneath was a whopping $20 from Lowes. I screwed the blue foam on the walls, sprayed the black foam to the blue foam with a contact adhesive, and screwed the borders. I didn't want to spray directly to the walls. It's not in the pics, but I did use leftover scraps to cover the windows.

But yea, there really wasn't much to it.


Nice job by the way. The foam is really that cheap? I guess you don't want to buy it from music stores. They'll jack the price 5x that number.

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:23 am
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Music stores aren't selling you upholstery foam or insulation and "jacking up the price." Upholstery foam and acoustical foam are not anything like the same thing, and when you are using it to tune a room, tame mid-range build-up, kill nasty reflections and so on, Auralex or Sonex will perform to a higher standard than will the stuff in your couch.


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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:31 am
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SlapChop wrote:
Music stores aren't selling you upholstery foam or insulation and "jacking up the price." Upholstery foam and acoustical foam are not anything like the same thing, and when you are using it to tune a room, tame mid-range build-up, kill nasty reflections and so on, Auralex or Sonex will perform to a higher standard than will the stuff in your couch.


Your 100% right. However I'm not looking to tune my practice area. Just keep the cops from getting called at 3 a.m. :lol:

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:38 pm
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SlapChop wrote:
Music stores aren't selling you upholstery foam or insulation and "jacking up the price." Upholstery foam and acoustical foam are not anything like the same thing, and when you are using it to tune a room, tame mid-range build-up, kill nasty reflections and so on, Auralex or Sonex will perform to a higher standard than will the stuff in your couch.


There is one little tid bit that SlapChop left out there...the Aurelex is also fire rated! If the OP used upholstery foam for this installation, NEVER let the local fire marshall into the room...he'll go thru the roof! In a fire, that upholstery foam will act as a wick and will draw a fire right up the walls to the ceiling VERY quickly. Even if it's been chemically treated, it's still very dangerous to use in that way...it's not really any better than putting carpeting on the walls (which will do the exact same thing).

Trust me...there is a VERY good reason why acoustic foam is sooo expensive...and it's worth every last penny of it.


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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:06 pm
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If simple soundproofing is all you want go to a ceiling fitter and buy a couple of boxes of ceiling tiles. One box of 600mmx600mm tiles will cover 12m2 offer excellent soundproofing and being made of volcanic ash are fire rated too. You'll get a box of used tiles for pennies.

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:17 pm
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I think that the term "soundproofing" is being used very loosely here.

The room shown above, in addition to be a firetrap (good call, BTW), is not "soundproof." Foam on the walls will not stop low frequencies (the ones that get the cops called out) from passing through, and it's probably a totally dead room, and would therefore exhibit the number 1 feature of a totally dead room: sounding like crap.

To soundproof a room so that inside noise doesn't get out (and vice versa) requires that the walls, floor and ceiling be de-coupled from the rest of the structure - usually by building a room inside a room - with a dead air space between.

You can't soundproof a room with ceiling tiles (even the best of which offer a nominal improvement in absorption) egg cartons (some dispersion but hardly any) or carpet (deadens reflections, does nothing else) on the walls.

Now, the OP's scheme of placing foam over foam probably does attenuate a lot of the mids and highs coming through the walls... I'm sure all you can hear outside is a muddy thump from about 300hz down. But that's not "soundproofing."


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now now if you want to talk of real soundproofing and isolating walls,floor and ceiling the only way to go is with newbuild. Even then the headaches of isolating floors are tremendous, particularly when trying to stack heavy epuipment. The problem being anything solid enough to suspend the floor with is going to transfere sound vibration along its supports/hangers. There are various types of sound resilient bar which go some way to destroying soundwaves when fitted in wall alas they are useless for floors.

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If any of you guys are planing a soundproof room, and are going all out, consider using "QuietRock" instead of regular drywall. I've seen people make walls 2 layers thick with amazing results. It is really great stuff but it is a bit expensive material and labor wise. Your neighbors wouldn't hear you and you wouldn't hear them either! It's just some cool stuff that not too many people know about besides the building industry. They even have a THX certified type recommended for home theaters. Who knew THX certified building material.


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FreedomStain wrote:
If any of you guys are planing a soundproof room, and are going all out, consider using "QuietRock" instead of regular drywall. I've seen people make walls 2 layers thick with amazing results. It is really great stuff but it is a bit expensive material and labor wise. Your neighbors wouldn't hear you and you wouldn't hear them either! It's just some cool stuff that not too many peout onlyple know about besides the building industry. They even have a THX certified type recommended for home theaters. Who knew THX certified building material.


Soundrated insulation, Its great stuff but only reaches its potential when used in a complete soundproof system.
Multilayer boards are also much the same, they offer little on their own.
The idea is to keep changing the density of the wall. In effect the soundwave becomes so distorted it dissipates to nothing.

Any chance of a link please Freedomstain so i can see the stuff. Its all called different names in the UK but i bet i've put it up.

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nikininja wrote:
FreedomStain wrote:
If any of you guys are planing a soundproof room, and are going all out, consider using "QuietRock" instead of regular drywall. I've seen people make walls 2 layers thick with amazing results. It is really great stuff but it is a bit expensive material and labor wise. Your neighbors wouldn't hear you and you wouldn't hear them either! It's just some cool stuff that not too many peout onlyple know about besides the building industry. They even have a THX certified type recommended for home theaters. Who knew THX certified building material.


Soundrated insulation, Its great stuff but only reaches its potential when used in a complete soundproof system.
Multilayer boards are also much the same, they offer little on their own.
The idea is to keep changing the density of the wall. In effect the soundwave becomes so distorted it dissipates to nothing.

Any chance of a link please Freedomstain so i can see the stuff. Its all called different names in the UK but i bet i've put it up.


I don't know about that. There are probably imitators, but this is the real deal. You need an electric saw to cut this stuff, it is pretty heavy duty.

I think this is their site-
http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietrock.html?gclid=CMWVw5Kul5oCFZpM5QodATPRMQ

Let me know what you think about it.


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Its soundblock plasterboard. I've built cinema's out of the stuff. 3 layers and a layer of 19mm as a base. It still needs isolating off the stud to acheive its best performance. I'll dig a vid out tommorow mate.

We cut the stuff with a stanley knife. The average 15mm board weighs 70kg 12.5 are about 58kg

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