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Post subject: Maple/rosewood tone difference
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:35 am
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Here it is as promised. Thanks to Mr Slapchop for inciting me to perform
this experiment. The guitars are my 04 deluxe and my customclassic. Both have scn pickups and identical deluxe style wiring and identical hardware bar the gold on the deluxe. They are going into my watkins clubman, a very basic amp that adds little colour to guitar tones.
My zoom H2 is used as an audio interface to capture sounds.


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I hear a slight difference in the treble side. Its subtle and nothing that couldnt be eq'd out. Thanks Slapchop, looks like you were right mate.

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:45 am
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The guitar with Rosewood sounded better :D

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:46 am
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Well done, Ninj. Been awaiting it quietly and patiently.

I hear a difference too, though obviously a vanishingly small one.

I'm certain I can't here differences in body finish and all that other voodoo, but I think this one is real - if insignificantly tiny.

Now: sit back and await all those who will want to question the test on grounds of scientific methodology...

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:48 am
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Yeah theres a grand to add to the price of the deluxe for it though :D

I've took it apart a few times and cant find the magic enhancement factor. It must be the customshop woods.

If you believe that you'll believe anything. :wink:

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:52 am
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Well as you can see i kept it all as simple as possible. As near the same
guitars into the same very basic amp with the same lead and both restrung last tuesday night. Recorded in realtime too to show nothing untoward
going on. Hence my ugly mug in frame.

I cant make it much more simple than that. The guitars are even setup the same.

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:55 am
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maple have bright sound from the rosewood.


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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:34 am
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I hear a slightly stronger snappier tone to the treble side with maple, its nothing that cant be eq'd out and is very subtle though.


I agree and thanks for posting this niki...love that H2. :wink:

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:28 am
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I hear a slightly stronger snappier tone to the treble side with maple, its nothing that cant be eq'd out and is very subtle though.


I agree and thanks for posting this niki...love that H2. :wink:

I thought the both had good tone but the rosewood souned clearer but that can be atributed to the struming because it hard to duplicate the force of the hand axactly the same.

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:56 am
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Yeah i notice that alot too. The snappiness of the maple tends to lead to earlier breakup. As i say though were really splitting hairs here.

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:21 am
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Yeah i notice that alot too. The snappiness of the maple tends to lead to earlier breakup. As i say though were really splitting hairs here.


Are you wearing converse high tops when playing? I think I hear them in your tone.


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no fear skate shoes for general day to day loafing. I do enjoy on occasion the added treble hightops add though. :wink:

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In one of my classes the Luthier showed us how to pick a good tone wood out by tapping it even when the boards were the same species he showed how one would sound lively and the other dead. We talked about woods for guitar top and necks and how they can differ in sound. He took two guitar necks and laid them between two benches both were Maple. He then took a marble and droped it between the same two frets and you could hear how they sounded different and thats what causes the strings to have a different timbre on a neck. He said its the quality of the wood the prep and finish but all starts with the wood.

I would think if you were to take the strings off the Rosewood and Maple neck and tap them the sound would be very different meaning there properties of how a string is going to react would differ as well.

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cvilleira wrote:
In one of my classes the Luthier showed us how to pick a good tone wood out by tapping it even when the boards were the same species he showed how one would sound lively and the other dead. We talked about woods for guitar top and necks and how they can differ in sound. He took two guitar necks and laid them between two benches both were Maple. He then took a marble and droped it between the same two frets and you could hear how they sounded different and thats what causes the strings to have a different timbre on a neck. He said its the quality of the wood the prep and finish but all starts with the wood.

I would think if you were to take the strings off the Rosewood and Maple neck and tap them the sound would be very different meaning there properties of how a string is going to react would differ as well.


Atlast the voice of reason and information. I've never been one to dismiss any guitar parts influence on tone. OK after the lengthy construction process and after the hardware is fitted any one aspect is pretty much reduced to insignificance. The sum of the parts making the whole. I'd even go as far as to include pickups in that. Whilst bad pickups can ruin a good guitar. Good pickups in my experience never make a bad guitar good.

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I have heard of guitar builders that tap on wood with a tuning fork to get a desired tone for their wood.
I do believe there is a tonal difference between rosewood and maple fretboards, although with my hearing loss I certainly can't hear it.

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