Fender japan strat kahler

shreditup · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm **Posts:** 13

Hello everybody, I am new to this forum and I was wondering if maybe one of you guys could help me out. I recently came across a what i believe to be a 1986 fender strat (atleast that is what somebody else told me). It is a fine piece of instrument and i have set it up already. The thing is that at the bridge where the saddles are locked it is missing the screws that keep the saddle on. Luckily the allen screw keeps it in place, but i want to make it complete and get a couple of the screws that hold it in. For the most part i am fairly new to owning fender guitars so i have no idea what kind of bridge this is. It is a kahler type bridge, but i have no idea where to go to find out what kind it is or where to get the parts. So if any of you guys know that would be great. The serial number on it is E500937 if that helps. Here are pics of it

Synkronized · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:19 pm

Your guitar was made at the
Fuji-gen Plant (for Fender Japan), Japan
in the Year(s): 1984 - 1987

It looks like a spyder bridge not sure though..

shreditup · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm **Posts:** 13

Synkronized wrote:

Your guitar was made at the
Fuji-gen Plant (for Fender Japan), Japan
in the Year(s): 1984 - 1987

It looks like a spyder bridge not sure though..

Thanks a lot I appreciate your help.

shreditup · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm **Posts:** 13

BigJay wrote:

Its and "E-series" MIJ. Very nice guitars. Higher quality than other MIJs of the era. Many E-series Strats were known as Strat Contemporaries. Im not sure if yours is a Strat Contemporary, but it could be. I'll have to check my book but I dont believe any Contemporaries had two tone knobs. Its definately Fuji and, based on the serial number, I believe its a 1985...."E-5xxxxx". It might be a Fuji production that was never intended for shipment to the US. They show up occassionally.

However, the E-series did have the Haler/Schaller bridge/tremolo system, like yours does.

These bridge/tremolo systems came in three variations; System 1, System 2 and System 3. All had the two-point pivot base. All had the micro-tuners, used in conjunction with the locking nut at the head. System 2 and 3 had additional tweaking adjustments, while System 1 only had the microtuners. Based on your picture, I believe your bridge/trem is the System 1 from Haller, which shortly thereafter, merged with Shaller, if I have the story correct.

Do a Google search on Japanese Stratocaster and you might find quite a bit of information. You should also search on Schaller/Haller bridge.

Thanks. That was very helpful. Luckily the bridge saddles have the lock on them so i could set it up without the intonation screws. This thing screams. My friends father has an american standard strat and this ones sounds just as good as his. It looks like somebody upgraded the pots on this beast and it has standard american pickups in it (not sure if thats what they normally came with). I mostly just want the screws so that it can be complete. Once again thanks for your help. Seems like a cool forum I migh stick around for a while. I also have a fender 5 string jazz bass and vintage bassman 50 head that has been modified to 100 watts.

rock god · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:29 pm

I own a mij I serise guitar thet has a kalher bridge the are easier than floyd rose bridges E and I series are made in very good quality

shreditup · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm **Posts:** 13

BigJay wrote:

I suspect yours could be one built in Japan and never intended for the USA. They did make nice guitars. I like my Contemporary a lot, although its not a Kickassocaster. That's for sure.

Yeah a lot of people seemed to be stumped by it. I know which one you are talking about from the contemporary series. I have a friend that used to have one and he enjoyed it a lot. I suppose all that matters is that it plays really well and can go without those piece for a little bit. I have got it running through a engl blackmore and it sounds fantastic. Once again thanks for all of your help. For the most part i am an ibanez player so coming back to fender is fairly big change. I used to own a mexican strat and i didnt like it. It was garbage compared to this one. Hopefully fender will make a nice 7 string one of these days. There are due for one.

Ceri · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:32 am

Hi shreditup, welcome to the Forum.

Your best and possibly only chance of finding replacement parts for this bridge will be at Wammiworld:

http://www.wammiworld.com/

After searching through all their information and pictures, if you are still in any doubt about exactly which model bridge you have send them an email with a good closeup photo and a careful description of which screws you are missing. I have found them very helpful and friendly in the past.

Good luck - C

PS Don't forget to check the Kahler Parts link at the bottom of Wammiworld's homepage...

shreditup · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm **Posts:** 13

Ceri wrote:

Hi shreditup, welcome to the Forum.

Your best and possibly only chance of finding replacement parts for this bridge will be at Wammiworld:

http://www.wammiworld.com/

After searching through all their information and pictures, if you are still in any doubt about exactly which model bridge you have send them an email with a good closeup photo and a careful description of which screws you are missing. I have found them very helpful and friendly in the past.

Good luck - C

PS Don't forget to check the Kahler Parts link at the bottom of Wammiworld's homepage...

sweet. They have what i was looking for. Thanks for the help. Just ordered them.

Ceri · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:56 am

shreditup wrote:

Ceri wrote:

Hi shreditup, welcome to the Forum.

Your best and possibly only chance of finding replacement parts for this bridge will be at Wammiworld:

http://www.wammiworld.com/

After searching through all their information and pictures, if you are still in any doubt about exactly which model bridge you have send them an email with a good closeup photo and a careful description of which screws you are missing. I have found them very helpful and friendly in the past.

Good luck - C

PS Don't forget to check the Kahler Parts link at the bottom of Wammiworld's homepage...

sweet. They have what i was looking for. Thanks for the help. Just ordered them.

Sorted!

- C

medeiros2021 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:21 am **Posts:** 55

That is a System 1 bridge, i've had trouble getting info on mine as well, if your interested i have a website that provides all the info and specifics about these guitars, I just have to find it first.

As Bigjay said, it could be a MIJ non export guitar that ended up here, I have a similar piece, A contemporary 22, face mounted jack plate, maple fret board.

The Contemporaries did come to america with 3 knobs, but they all had rosewood fretboards.

Nice piece, how much did you pay for that? if you don't mind answering that

shreditup · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm **Posts:** 13

medeiros2021 wrote:

That is a System 1 bridge, i've had trouble getting info on mine as well, if your interested i have a website that provides all the info and specifics about these guitars, I just have to find it first.

As Bigjay said, it could be a MIJ non export guitar that ended up here, I have a similar piece, A contemporary 22, face mounted jack plate, maple fret board.

The Contemporaries did come to america with 3 knobs, but they all had rosewood fretboards.

Nice piece, how much did you pay for that? if you don't mind answering that

i picked it up for 150 dollars. not a bad score if you ask me.

medeiros2021 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:21 am **Posts:** 55

shreditup wrote:

medeiros2021 wrote:

That is a System 1 bridge, i've had trouble getting info on mine as well, if your interested i have a website that provides all the info and specifics about these guitars, I just have to find it first.

As Bigjay said, it could be a MIJ non export guitar that ended up here, I have a similar piece, A contemporary 22, face mounted jack plate, maple fret board.

The Contemporaries did come to america with 3 knobs, but they all had rosewood fretboards.

Nice piece, how much did you pay for that? if you don't mind answering that

i picked it up for 150 dollars. not a bad score if you ask me.

Thats an insane price man nicely done.

A lot of people would rather not opt for a Japanese strat because they compare them to the mexican strats. Frankly I find the japanese strats of the 80's were better then the american 80's strats in overall quality and tone. Of course that could just be me.

One thing I do agree with the critics about is the electronics, the pots and switches are a little iffy, but thats not a big fix.

shreditup · **Joined:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm **Posts:** 13

medeiros2021 wrote:

shreditup wrote:

medeiros2021 wrote:

That is a System 1 bridge, i've had trouble getting info on mine as well, if your interested i have a website that provides all the info and specifics about these guitars, I just have to find it first.

As Bigjay said, it could be a MIJ non export guitar that ended up here, I have a similar piece, A contemporary 22, face mounted jack plate, maple fret board.

The Contemporaries did come to america with 3 knobs, but they all had rosewood fretboards.

Nice piece, how much did you pay for that? if you don't mind answering that

i picked it up for 150 dollars. not a bad score if you ask me.

Thats an insane price man nicely done.

A lot of people would rather not opt for a Japanese strat because they compare them to the mexican strats. Frankly I find the japanese strats of the 80's were better then the american 80's strats in overall quality and tone. Of course that could just be me.

One thing I do agree with the critics about is the electronics, the pots and switches are a little iffy, but thats not a big fix.

well on this one. The previous owner upgraded the pickups to american standard and put new crl high quality pots and switched in it. So it that problem was already fixed for me.

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