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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:19 pm
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First thing is first... you gotta’ make sure you buy an original Floyd Rose tremolo...

http://www.beyondeleven.com/ProductDeta ... l-frt100-c


Hmm. Regardless of whether a Floyd is made by Schaller or not (and Schaller make 'em under license, like everyone else), what bothers me about them on Strats is the string radius at the saddles.

The quoted website doesn't quite care to mention the fact that Schaller's FR, like most (all?) others, has a 12 inch radius at the bridge. Couple that with a ten inch radius at the nut and you have a very ungainly setup over a Fender's 9 1/2 inch radius fingerboard.

Some people like their strings set to a smaller radius than the fingerboard. Who on earth wants the strings laid out to a flatter radius? Not comfortable, and for all Floyd's cited intelligence he didn't put saddles with height adjustment on his original bridge. No idea why not...

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Good points!!! The Floyd Rose originally came on guitars like the Kramer Baretta and Pacer. It had the 12' radius fretboard, so no problemo. If you want to get the bridge saddles to match a Fender, you have to grind the bottom of the saddles(ugh!) or shim them. Both, not very good options. Maybe Floyd Rose never considered that his design would become the industry standard for locking trems, and did not forsee fretboard radiuses outside of the original specs for which it was designed? Who knows? I don't!!!


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Hey you can also go to Guitarpartsdepot.com they sell them too in different colors!!

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I'll be getting one of these for my Strat once I have the $$$:

http://www.super-vee.com/index.html

Double locking, no routing, looks quite cool. A little expensive, but it's worth it to not have to rout the body.

EDIT: Just saw you mention one of these in an earlier post. Sorry if I'm a little late. :oops:


That locking nut looks a little funky and cumbersome though...I wonder if you could get away with using an LSR nut and locking tuners in lieu of that?

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That locking nut looks a little funky and cumbersome though...I wonder if you could get away with using an LSR nut and locking tuners in lieu of that?


I was just wondering the same thing. If anyone has any input on this, please share.


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That locking nut looks a little funky and cumbersome though...I wonder if you could get away with using an LSR nut and locking tuners in lieu of that?


I was just wondering the same thing. If anyone has any input on this, please share.


Kinda defies the point of using a Floyd in the first place. The whole idea of that system is to tune the string and then clamp it tight at either end of it's speaking length.

Do away with the locking nut, you might as well use any of the other very nice vibrato systems available, many of which are better suited to a Strat in any case...

BTW: not a comment on any of the posters here, but people sometimes turn out to be slightly misunderstanding what locking tuners do...

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The locking nut is very key to the trem system. Moreso than the clamps on the bridge.

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Ceri wrote:
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That locking nut looks a little funky and cumbersome though...I wonder if you could get away with using an LSR nut and locking tuners in lieu of that?


I was just wondering the same thing. If anyone has any input on this, please share.


Kinda defies the point of using a Floyd in the first place. The whole idea of that system is to tune the string and then clamp it tight at either end of it's speaking length.

Do away with the locking nut, you might as well use any of the other very nice vibrato systems available, many of which are better suited to a Strat in any case...

BTW: not a comment on any of the posters here, but people sometimes turn out to be slightly misunderstanding what locking tuners do...

Cheers - C


Good point. Am I correct in thinking that the only "locking" aspect of locking tuners is clamping the string in the post? A friend of mine is thoroughly convinced that the knobs themselves lock in place. Which obviously doesn't make sense.


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Good point. Am I correct in thinking that the only "locking" aspect of locking tuners is clamping the string in the post? A friend of mine is thoroughly convinced that the knobs themselves lock in place. Which obviously doesn't make sense.


Hi mcphail. You are right and your friend is slightly misunderstanding what those tuners do. The idea is that you hardly need to wind the string around the post at all (a possible source of intonation fluctuations) since it just locks into the hole. Quicker restringing and possibly more stable pitch. And goodbye to stringwinders!

But the word "locking" has nothing to do with the locking nut on a Floyd Rose.

I wonder how many people buy locking tuners and then are dismayed by what they find they've got?

Cheers - C


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