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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:49 pm
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I wholeheartedly agree that it was designed as a bigsby replacement. I just dont see how it would cause intonation troubles when the physics behind it lend themselves to improving intonation. Gotta say I've 2 strats with floating trems and one with the trem blocked off. I've measured fretted notes again and again across the board and not found much difference one against the other.
I'll admit i'm obsessed with finding the sweetest temperate tuning i can and measure notes repeatedly. The best guitar type i've found for fretted note intonation is gibson types but that is largely due to their flatter fretboards/frets. My jackson exhibits similar superiority. It has a similar 22fret 16" radius fretboard and a floyd rose in full float.

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[quote="nikininja"]The best guitar type i've found for fretted note intonation is gibson types but that is largely due to their flatter fretboards/frets.

I suggest that a Fender trem/bridge system either floating or 'stopped' and a Gibson Adjustomatic top mounted tailpiece, are two different systems, and may account as well, for the differences. So might the scale differences.

My thoughts in the previous response were addressed more to the stress inherent in contemporary use of the Fender system which might lend to unbalancing the setup.

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What I don't like about the Stratocaster?

They are very addictive... Fender must "lace" the paint with a very addictive substance, because I just keep buying new ones ( or old ones)... And I can't play more than one strat at a time, but, I keep on buying!!

At my "Stratoholics Anonymous" Meetings I always say... " Hello my name is Allan and I'm a Stratoholic!" And then, the entire room of stratoholics give me support and cookies and a hug... But, I'm still buying Strats... playing strats...polishing them... tuning them. etc etc.
(please help me)

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allanf64 wrote:
!!At my "Stratoholics Anonymous" Meetings I always say... " Hello my name is Allan and I'm a Stratoholic!" And then, the entire room of stratoholics give me support and cookies and a hug... But, I'm still buying Strats... playing strats...polishing them... tuning them. etc etc.
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No cookies or hugs at this meeting...but plenty of support. You, of all people, will clearly understand that, if Linus didn't already have a blanket, he'd be carrying around a Stratocaster. :wink:

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Good point... because a piano is hard to carry around for sure!

The other thing that I don't like about Stratocasters, is that women love them so much...

Now don't get me wrong- I love women-
but, they only love me for about 3 months....
And then they start hating me, (a lot).

Wait a minute I buy a new Strat about every 3 months...
NO... that couldn't be it...??

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allanf64 wrote:
Good point... because a piano is hard to carry around for sure!The other thing that I don't like about Stratocasters, is that women love them so much... Now don't get me wrong- I love women-
but, they only love me for about 3 months....
And then they start hating me, (a lot).Wait a minute I buy a new Strat about every 3 months... NO... that couldn't be it...??



Philosophy must be: Love me-love my guitar-love me 8) Otherwise, this dog WILL hunt :wink:

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Amen and pass the ammunition!

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I don't own one but I do want one someday. What always put me off is the placement of the Volume knob, the way I play I keep turning myself down.

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I don't like the position of the pickup selector switch. If I get too aggressive with my strumming, suddenly I'm using the bridge pickup! :shock:


I've had that happen in the middle of a song live with my band before. It took me a second to realize what had happened. :lol:

And the block of wood at the neck is annoying when you've got small hands and are trying to play way up high. But you get used to it, same as the volume knob.

I wouldn't change anything major on it.


why not just wire it backwards or turn it around?? No use in throwing out a peanut butter and jelly sandwich just cause the jelly's on bottom!! :wink: .. sorry for the analogy but im eating one right now...no meat on fridays :P


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why not just wire it backwards or turn it around?? No use in throwing out a peanut butter and jelly sandwich just cause the jelly's on bottom!! :wink: .. sorry for the analogy but im eating one right now...no meat on fridays :P[/quote]

I thought to offer the same suggestions but it seems that his playing style is interfere with the pot settings, order not wiithstanding. Either he changes that, or plays an intrument more compatible with same. The Custom Shop could certainly build him a Stratocaster with the controls laid out like a Tele if he wanted to go the freight.

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KevinCurtis wrote:
the strings to where the first tone knob.

Couple of trouble spots....
... 2. Staggered pole pickups.
3. Weaker than crap bridge pickup in most stock single coil situations. I know many strat players, none of them kept the stock bridge pickup in any of their various model/model year strats.
4. Frets are too flat most of the time. Fingers touch the fingerboard.
5. Floating bridge takes the intonation in a sour direction, even with a "good" setup.

Don't get me wrong. I'm in love with 'er too, but just like in human relationships..nobody's perfect. So we're working on our marriage. She makes me look and sound great, and she's my main songbird.

I ain't mad, I ain't bitter, just honest. My strats do a lot for me, and I for them.
Plus the V shaped neck makes me happy.

2. What is bad about staggered poles? Aren't they staggered to mkae each string the correct volume?
3. Single coil in the bridge? Yuck! Not on my guitar! HSS = ROCK/METAL! :)
Hard core strat guys are going to call me crazy for this... but even when I watch my SRV videos it sounds thin and shrill when he plays through the bridge single coil pickup. I think those things could kill small animals and audineces if not used carefully!

4. A refret will fix your fret problems! My '97 mexican made strat is my first and only guitar and I played on that neck for 7 years until the frets wore down severely- then I got a replacement neck with 6105 frets (jumbo), which feel great but are just slightly too big because sometimes I press to hard on the G string with my pinkiy when chording and make it go sharp. I think that Medium Jumbo is probably perfect, but that vintage sized stuff is terrible. What model do you have?
For me, fingers touching the fretboard is *somewhat tolerable, but only on a maple fretboard.

5. Using my trem always made it go out of tune. After upgrading to a grphtech graphite nut and graphite saddles and locking schaller tuners I rarely have tuning problems unless I dive bomb in a huge way.

With a nut that is not graphite try putting powdered graphite in the nut slots. You can pick up a tube of key lock lubrication at the hardware store, which is graphite. That's what I used before I got my graphite nut.


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[quote="StratMatt777"][quote="KevinCurtis"]

See. :!: No problem too big to solve. That's what we're about.

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I've got a couple strats.
Classic 50's
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Deluxe Powerhouse

Thanks for the suggestions.
I actually saw on Warmoth how they have replacement nuts that compensate for bends. Interesting stuff.

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The worst thing for me about playing a strat is putting it down.

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The only thing I don't like about them is how they are copied so much. Ill go to London Drugs, or somewhere that sells cheap knockoffs, and people who don't know a lot about guitars will say," hey, isn't that the same guitar as you?". then I have to explain how an 08 MIA Strat is different from a knockoff...

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