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Post subject: Partscaster
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:24 am
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I have the oppurtunity to trade for a partscaster with reasonable components, but I am wondering, has anyone ever tried to sell a partscaster? Easy/hard? Can you get value for the parts involved etc?

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:34 am
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Hi nicholsoni: I was watching sales of a certain model of Strat on Ebay last year. I noticed that any mod whatsoever tended to reduce the final sale price, even when the seller was boasting of having installed "name" pickups, for example.

Nevermind vintage value: just in terms of selling-on value of today's guitars any modding guys do reduces the bucks their axe will bring when they want to trade up. (Relicing, doubly so.)

Far as fully fledged partsocasters are concerned, the market seems to regard those like cars patched together from insurance right-offs. Buyers are leary of 'em, no matter the quality of the parts.

Of course, now this thread will fill up with folks quoting exceptions to what I've just said, but...

When we mod or build a guitar we need to do it to fulfill our own requirements right now, not with an eye on resale value. My view, anyhow...

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Post subject: Re: Partscaster
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:37 am
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Hi nicholsoni: I was watching sales of a certain model of Strat on Ebay last year. I noticed that any mod whatsoever tended to reduce the final sale price, even when the seller was boasting of having installed "name" pickups, for example.

Nevermind vintage value: just in terms of selling-on value of today's guitars any modding guys do reduces the bucks their axe will bring when they want to trade up. (Relicing, doubly so.)

Far as fully fledged partsocasters are concerned, the market seems to regard those like cars patched together from insurance right-offs. Buyers are leary of 'em, no matter the quality of the parts.

Of course, now this thread will fill up with folks quoting exceptions to what I've just said, but...

When we mod or build a guitar we need to do it to fulfill our own requirements right now, not with an eye on resale value. My view, anyhow...

Cheers - C


Thank you...very helpful.

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Post subject: Re: Partscaster
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:40 am
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nicholsoni wrote:
Thank you...very helpful.


Welcome.

Though it doesn't in the least help you decide whether to go for the one you are being offered, does it?

Post pictures of it - and we'll give you twenty different opinions!!

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:37 pm
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Ceri wrote:
nicholsoni wrote:
Thank you...very helpful.


Welcome.

Though it doesn't in the least help you decide whether to go for the one you are being offered, does it?

Post pictures of it - and we'll give you twenty different opinions!!

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No but that being said I was pretty much set on the trade to begin with. I have a Peavey hollowbody that I've had kicking around for a bit that I just don't play. Fantastic guitar, just don't play it. I put an add up on a local website for trade possibilities and got a reply of this partscaster....

"Neck is a used maple GFS with a dark rosewood fingerboard. There is no name on the headstock. The body is solid ash - not plywood - and is an amber clear finish. Hardware is from a Mex Strat, pickups are older Kent Armstrong single coils. Pickguard is a new aged pearloid with cream knobs. I put copper foil on the back of the pickguard for a little less hum."

Seems interesting and could be a cool project with new pickups if I don't like the sound of it.

Will post a pick...in a few minutes.

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Post subject: Re: Partscaster
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:45 pm
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Ceri wrote:
Hi nicholsoni: I was watching sales of a certain model of Strat on Ebay last year. I noticed that any mod whatsoever tended to reduce the final sale price, even when the seller was boasting of having installed "name" pickups, for example.

Nevermind vintage value: just in terms of selling-on value of today's guitars any modding guys do reduces the bucks their axe will bring when they want to trade up. (Relicing, doubly so.)

Far as fully fledged partsocasters are concerned, the market seems to regard those like cars patched together from insurance right-offs. Buyers are leary of 'em, no matter the quality of the parts.

Of course, now this thread will fill up with folks quoting exceptions to what I've just said, but...

When we mod or build a guitar we need to do it to fulfill our own requirements right now, not with an eye on resale value. My view, anyhow...

Cheers - C


I agree with this from top to bottom.

I make partscasters because that's exactly how I want it, plus it's fun...the odds of someone else coming along and wanting that exact same thing are slim.

I came across this all the time when I worked in a music shop. People would bring in a guitar with "their" upgrades and it was hard to get some people to grasp that what they like, the general public may not, therein decreasing the value of the instrument for resale.

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Most of the guitars that i have sold I returnd them back to ther stock specs because as ceri said they sell better if the shell has not been cracked. I won't buy a guitar thats had someone mod it. Even though these are bolt and screwed together guitars and its hard to do it wrong people find ways to do so and do a bad job even when done right.

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Here is the pick....mostly I like the body and can go from there.
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Hi nicholsoni: hate to set you tasks, but I'm afraid I think you need to show us the Peavey hollowbody you are proposing to swap for it as well. So's we can balance 'em in our minds...

I agree, it's a striking body, though...

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Not the best pic...but a pretty standard 335 style.

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A link to the website...

http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.c ... tem=113642

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Looks like an ok trade if what the seller told you was legit.

and thats what it boils down to, can you trust another modder.


I personally love modding guitars, but resale is not much of an option. Unless you have the title of luthier or at least guitar mods and repairs, people dont tend to want to trust it.

I mod guitars, but heck i would totally understand if someone doesnt trust my work. I know i do good work, it checks out, but they dont. Understandable.

If your happy with the trade, cool. thats all thats really important.

sorry if i just reiterated things that had already been said, but anyways, thats my two cents.

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Thanks to everyone who has weighed in, very insightful.

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So I have a question for the esteemed panel. I have a 2001 Fender Stratocaster Standard in Brown Sunburst finish that I am thinking of selling. It has got some very reversible mods on it.
I have replaced the stock ceramic pickups for a set of 3 GFS overwound staggered RW/RP ceramics pickups, plus I added pearl top chrome knobs and Fender/Schaller strap locks.
I recently got a set of Fender Vintage noiseless pickups that I was going to install instead of the GFS units.
My question is; Is the guitar more likely to sell with
1. current set-up (GFS pups, pearl knobs, straplocks)
2. Fender Vintage noiseless pups, pearl knobs, straplocks
3. returned to stock from factory(stock pups, stock knobs, stock strap buttons)
This is very interesting to me, because I can see the added value of the upgrades I have made in my guitars. The guitar buying public may not, or may not like the particular components.
I definately see why stock guitars are so desireable. The feeling that it is the way it came from the factory is comforting, knowing that nobody screwed it up. Just curious......


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paisley strat wrote:
So I have a question for the esteemed panel. I have a 2001 Fender Stratocaster Standard in Brown Sunburst finish that I am thinking of selling. It has got some very reversible mods on it.
I have replaced the stock ceramic pickups for a set of 3 GFS overwound staggered RW/RP ceramics pickups, plus I added pearl top chrome knobs and Fender/Schaller strap locks.
I recently got a set of Fender Vintage noiseless pickups that I was going to install instead of the GFS units.
My question is; Is the guitar more likely to sell with
1. current set-up (GFS pups, pearl knobs, straplocks)
2. Fender Vintage noiseless pups, pearl knobs, straplocks
3. returned to stock from factory(stock pups, stock knobs, stock strap buttons)
This is very interesting to me, because I can see the added value of the upgrades I have made in my guitars. The guitar buying public may not, or may not like the particular components.
I definately see why stock guitars are so desireable. The feeling that it is the way it came from the factory is comforting, knowing that nobody screwed it up. Just curious......


If your going to sell, dont put in those nice Vintage noiseless pups. its a waste, it will increase resale value, but probably not enough to cover the cost of those pups.

for resale, easiest thing to do is return to stock. If you want to make the most you can, thats what i'd do.

then maybe sell the GFS separately to get a bit more return on them.

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Post subject: Re: Partscaster
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:29 pm
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nicholsoni wrote:
I have a Peavey hollowbody that I've had kicking around for a bit that I just don't play. Fantastic guitar, just don't play it. I put an add up on a local website for trade possibilities and got a reply of this partscaster....


A GFS neck? What kind of body? This doesn't sound like a top quality partsocaster to me.

I'd keep the Peavey (unless I absolutely hated it).

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