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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:54 am
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BigJay wrote:
Thanks, Twelvebar...very good information.

My neck has a satin urethane finish.

How does that affect my ability to tint it?

Heres a interesting article I have never done it like this guy though. In the past I have taken the finish off in taperd degrees and then rubbed in Aniline Dye and if you use the alcohol base it does not raise the grain much. Also if you want to just yellow the whole neck you can refinnish the neck and add Aniline to the clear shellac. Be warned it takes only a little Analine dye you can buy it at woodwork supplie stores most times as 1oz. to 4oz. bottles.

Well heres the article of how another does it.
http://www.guitarsessions.com/may07/guitar_maker.asp

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BigJay wrote:
Thank you, Twelvebar.

Sounds like stronger minds are opposed to me monkeying with the perceived age of my neck. Its all good.

I suppose its off to dressing frets then......anoying buzz at about #12 and higher....
I wouldn't say to not do it. But it might be a bit tougher cus of the poly. Look at your local Sherwinn Williams or similar store for tinted poly.

I tend to like to go right to the wood on everything, but I don't suggest learning how to do this on
......................................a neck as good as the one you have. I taught myself on pawnshop prizes that I didn't care about at all.

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Tell me how you get to "strongly" against tea or food coloring, please.


Haha - well, soaking them in tea or coffee is the classic way kids "age" their white plastic knobs. What Twelvebar says about urethane is right: I think you'll likely end up with an awful fake tan look on that neck. Blotchy aging on knobs is one thing: on pale maple... Ew...

Twelvebar is also right in what he says about working with polyurethane through proper spray equipment. Which is why an aerosol of tinted urethane is so utterly convenient.

My part of the world Behlen, amongst others, do polyurethane in a range of tints in aerosols. (They do almost everything else in aerosols too, and in every other form. Very handy.) Stewart-MacDonald stock a number of Behlen products, but I think not those cans of urethane. But it's a name to Google. As is Plasti-Kote...

BTW: if spraying a rosewood neck you need to mask the fingerboard. Which conveniently saves getting the lacquer off the frets after, too.

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How fun, while I was typing that last response my package of dye and stain pigments I ordered to work on my Ibanez and P-bass, came via Fed Ex. now to figure out if I have enough time to get my finishing schedule started before I go to visit family out of town, or if I should wait til I get back so I can stick to a strict finishing schedule.

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I think you'll likely end up with an awful fake tan look on that neck.

Good luck - C
Haha speaking of that, I remember reading on another forum that someone tried aging their finish by putting the guitar in a tanning booth. I don't remember the results, I'll try dig up the link. The theory was the UV exposure would darken the yellow in the tint. Your classic aged lacquer gets its tan the same way you do.

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Twelvebar wrote:
An addendum to his steel wool thing, use the #00000 stuff. it is the finest. i find rubbing down with naptha might not be good enough for that, as the wool leaves a ton of tiny tailings behind. I would suggest you blow the neck off with a an of compressed air (like for your computer,0 then wipe it with naptha. i guess i am even more anal than Ceri :lol: :lol: :lol:


(Hehe - we're all typing at the same time and our posts are crossing in cyberspace...)

Agree with all of that: the naphtha and mineral spirits are for de-greasing the surface, not particularly for getting those pesky little metal particles off. Don't let those metal filings anywhere near your pickups! You'll never get those magnets clean...

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Twelvebar wrote:
I remember reading on another forum that someone tried aging their finish by putting the guitar in a tanning booth.


Ha! Do you remember, there was a guy here once who wanted to age his plastic parts by peeing on them? Oh man...!

That's one guitarist you wouldn't shake hands with after a gig...

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try a bag of dark pipe tobacco and a bags of dark tea let them set up an soak and steep together in hot water then once all the color has come off the tea an tobacco you will have nice tinted water ,,, using a soft non porous cloth rub it all over the neck , let set an dry then re-apply until desired color is achieved ,,, :shock: sounds bizzare but it does work without killing your neck ....


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Ceri wrote:
BigJay wrote:
Tell me how you get to "strongly" against tea or food coloring, please.


Haha - well, soaking them in tea or coffee is the classic way kids "age" their white plastic knobs. What Twelvebar says about urethane is right: I think you'll likely end up with an awful fake tan look on that neck. Blotchy aging on knobs is one thing: on pale maple... Ew...

Twelvebar is also right in what he says about working with polyurethane through proper spray equipment. Which is why an aerosol of tinted urethane is so utterly convenient.

My part of the world Behlen, amongst others, do polyurethane in a range of tints in aerosols. (They do almost everything else in aerosols too, and in every other form. Very handy.) Stewart-MacDonald stock a number of Behlen products, but I think not those cans of urethane. But it's a name to Google. As is Plasti-Kote...

BTW: if spraying a rosewood neck you need to mask the fingerboard. Which conveniently saves getting the lacquer off the frets after, too.

Good luck - C

Your right Ceri buy already tinted is the easy way for sure most dont have air guns and it does not pay to spend money on a little home outfit to do a neck or two. I bought mine on a whim thinking I might make some business with it :oops: Not much call.

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Ceri wrote:
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I remember reading on another forum that someone tried aging their finish by putting the guitar in a tanning booth.


Ha! Do you remember, there was a guy here once who wanted to age his plastic parts by peeing on them? Oh man...!

That's one guitarist you wouldn't shake hands with after a gig...

Cheers - C
Lol ya!!

But you know the ammonia in your pee would probably pit and rough the plastics, and the yellow would be a pretty uniform dye, it might actually work. I have a buddy who wants to try aging his pick covers, and knobs, maybe I'll tell him I'll do it if he buys me a 6 pack!!!

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Twelvebar wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Twelvebar wrote:
I remember reading on another forum that someone tried aging their finish by putting the guitar in a tanning booth.


Ha! Do you remember, there was a guy here once who wanted to age his plastic parts by peeing on them? Oh man...!

That's one guitarist you wouldn't shake hands with after a gig...

Cheers - C
Lol ya!!

But you know the ammonia in your pee would probably pit and rough the plastics, and the yellow would be a pretty uniform dye, it might actually work. I have a buddy who wants to try aging his pick covers, and knobs, maybe I'll tell him I'll do it if he buys me a 6 pack!!!


Oh yuk! :lol:

Cheers - C


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Twelvebar wrote:
Ceri wrote:
Twelvebar wrote:
I remember reading on another forum that someone tried aging their finish by putting the guitar in a tanning booth.


Ha! Do you remember, there was a guy here once who wanted to age his plastic parts by peeing on them? Oh man...!

That's one guitarist you wouldn't shake hands with after a gig...

Cheers - C
Lol ya!!

But you know the ammonia in your pee would probably pit and rough the plastics, and the yellow would be a pretty uniform dye, it might actually work. I have a buddy who wants to try aging his pick covers, and knobs, maybe I'll tell him I'll do it if he buys me a 6 pack!!!


I am always amaze how many different ways people think to do these things. As cheap as Knobs and Covers are you just buy aged looking ones now days. Last week at the shop there was a dude there who had spent the evening rubbing his guitar neck out with Auto Rubbing compound then polished it and I must say it felt smooth and well broke in. Who'da thunk it?

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