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I'm gonna see if I need to keep refreshing this thread every month or so...


Be ever mindful of the unsung players out there....the ones that never find their way into the limelight as stage perfomers, but who constitute the bedrock of the tour or backing bands, the studio musicians whom you've heard, but whose names have no celebrity, the transcribers and arrangers of guitar music which you find in the monthly magazines.

To be one of the greats is a gift. To take their music off a recording, transpose it to an instrument, and put that down on paper.....man!

Who's the guitar hero now!!!


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the day stevie died the world of music lost the best guitar player its ever had :cry:

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the day stevie died the world of music lost the best guitar player its ever had :cry:


Your observations are a worthy tribute to his gifts but hardly the case.
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ust to name a few hallmarks of their particular genre, virtuosity, and creativity I offer you:

Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Mark Knopfler, Albert Lee, Yngwie Malmstein, Roy Buchanan, Jimmy Page, James Burton, Larry Carleton, Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy, the young Larry Collins, Vince Gill, Jeff Beck, Keith Richards,
Danny Gatlin, Jimmy Hendrix...et cetera, et cetera, and so forth!!!


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zzdoc wrote:
blues_boy wrote:
I'm gonna see if I need to keep refreshing this thread every month or so...


Be ever mindful of the unsung players out there....the ones that never find their way into the limelight as stage perfomers, but who constitute the bedrock of the tour or backing bands, the studio musicians whom you've heard, but whose names have no celebrity, the transcribers and arrangers of guitar music which you find in the monthly magazines.

To be one of the greats is a gift. To take their music off a recording, transpose it to an instrument, and put that down on paper.....man!

Who's the guitar hero now!!!

Anybody can be taught the mechanics of Music, it takes that mysterious "something else" to move people. Stevie Ray had that "something else" that your average Phil Palmer will just never have.

And guitar magazine transcriptions are notoriously inaccurate. If you want to get Stevies stuff, your better off getting any of his Live Video Material and copping from his hands.

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zzdoc wrote:
blues_boy wrote:
I'm gonna see if I need to keep refreshing this thread every month or so...


Be ever mindful of the unsung players out there....the ones that never find their way into the limelight as stage perfomers, but who constitute the bedrock of the tour or backing bands, the studio musicians whom you've heard, but whose names have no celebrity, the transcribers and arrangers of guitar music which you find in the monthly magazines.

To be one of the greats is a gift. To take their music off a recording, transpose it to an instrument, and put that down on paper.....man!

Who's the guitar hero now!!!

Anybody can be taught the mechanics of Music, it takes that mysterious "something else" to move people. Stevie Ray had that "something else" that your average Phil Palmer will just never have.

And guitar magazine transcriptions are notoriously inaccurate. If you want to get Stevies stuff, your better off getting any of his Live Video Material and copping from his hands.



Copping from his hands????? His hands, how he used them, and what he expressed through them is that "mysterious something else" which made him unique and no amount of attention to those videos is ever going to help you acquire the technique of how he laid his hands on that instrument.

The transcriptions are imperfect, at best, but it takes a significant amount of talent and skill to render them.


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zzdoc wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
zzdoc wrote:
blues_boy wrote:
I'm gonna see if I need to keep refreshing this thread every month or so...


Be ever mindful of the unsung players out there....the ones that never find their way into the limelight as stage perfomers, but who constitute the bedrock of the tour or backing bands, the studio musicians whom you've heard, but whose names have no celebrity, the transcribers and arrangers of guitar music which you find in the monthly magazines.

To be one of the greats is a gift. To take their music off a recording, transpose it to an instrument, and put that down on paper.....man!

Who's the guitar hero now!!!

Anybody can be taught the mechanics of Music, it takes that mysterious "something else" to move people. Stevie Ray had that "something else" that your average Phil Palmer will just never have.

And guitar magazine transcriptions are notoriously inaccurate. If you want to get Stevies stuff, your better off getting any of his Live Video Material and copping from his hands.



Copping from his hands????? His hands, how he used them, and what he expressed through them is that "mysterious something else" which made him unique and no amount of attention to those videos is ever going to help you acquire the technique of how he laid his hands on that instrument.

The transcriptions are imperfect, at best, but it takes a significant amount of talent and skill to render them.

It'll let you know what position he's playing in. That's all. I mean really, did I ever say you'd catch his mojo by watching his hands? No, I said that its a better way to figure out what he's playing than "Just" a transcrip[tion.

That "Something else" comes from inside the player, or it doesn't. It has more to do with the Endocrine System than the minor Blues Scale.

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In my top 5 guitarist of all time. It is a shame that he died at such a young age.


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stevie made a big impact on my life as well, my dad was a huge alcoholic and when i heard life by the drop by him ,it drew tears from me, and ever since then i have been a huge fan of his.


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zzdoc wrote:
clackattack wrote:
the day stevie died the world of music lost the best guitar player its ever had :cry:


Your observations are a worthy tribute to his gifts but hardly the case.
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ust to name a few hallmarks of their particular genre, virtuosity, and creativity I offer you:

Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Mark Knopfler, Albert Lee, Yngwie Malmstein, Roy Buchanan, Jimmy Page, James Burton, Larry Carleton, Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy, the young Larry Collins, Vince Gill, Jeff Beck, Keith Richards,
Danny Gatlin, Jimmy Hendrix...et cetera, et cetera, and so forth!!!

ZZdoc, I saw almost everyone you have listed here and I couldn't disagree with you more. I even saw SRV and Beck on the same stage and SRV blew him away (no contest). Saw SRV/Clapton on same stage again no contest. Saw SRV/Buddy Guy same stage again no contest. Keith Richards?!! Cmon! Him and Mick were so impressed with Stevie that they gave him one of his first breaks. Malmsteen wouldn't know "feel" if it walked up to him and punched him in the face.


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zzdoc wrote:
clackattack wrote:
the day stevie died the world of music lost the best guitar player its ever had :cry:


Your observations are a worthy tribute to his gifts but hardly the case.
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ust to name a few hallmarks of their particular genre, virtuosity, and creativity I offer you:

Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Mark Knopfler, Albert Lee, Yngwie Malmstein, Roy Buchanan, Jimmy Page, James Burton, Larry Carleton, Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy, the young Larry Collins, Vince Gill, Jeff Beck, Keith Richards,
Danny Gatlin, Jimmy Hendrix...et cetera, et cetera, and so forth!!!

ZZdoc, I saw almost everyone you have listed here and I couldn't disagree with you more. I even saw SRV and Beck on the same stage and SRV blew him away (no contest). Saw SRV/Clapton on same stage again no contest. Saw SRV/Buddy Guy same stage again no contest. Keith Richards?!! Cmon! Him and Mick were so impressed with Stevie that they gave him one of his first breaks. Malmsteen wouldn't know "feel" if it walked up to him and punched him in the face.


If you insist on comparing apples and oranges, by all means, do so.


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zzdoc wrote:
ratboy wrote:
zzdoc wrote:
clackattack wrote:
the day stevie died the world of music lost the best guitar player its ever had :cry:


Your observations are a worthy tribute to his gifts but hardly the case.
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ust to name a few hallmarks of their particular genre, virtuosity, and creativity I offer you:

Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Mark Knopfler, Albert Lee, Yngwie Malmstein, Roy Buchanan, Jimmy Page, James Burton, Larry Carleton, Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy, the young Larry Collins, Vince Gill, Jeff Beck, Keith Richards,
Danny Gatlin, Jimmy Hendrix...et cetera, et cetera, and so forth!!!

ZZdoc, I saw almost everyone you have listed here and I couldn't disagree with you more. I even saw SRV and Beck on the same stage and SRV blew him away (no contest). Saw SRV/Clapton on same stage again no contest. Saw SRV/Buddy Guy same stage again no contest. Keith Richards?!! Cmon! Him and Mick were so impressed with Stevie that they gave him one of his first breaks. Malmsteen wouldn't know "feel" if it walked up to him and punched him in the face.


If you insist on comparing apples and oranges, by all means, do so.

Umm...I didn't bring up any comparisons... you did.


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In my opinion he is the best ever guitar player along with Jimi Hendrix.

He has brought huge amounts of amazing music to this world, and inspiration to many including me.


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Why does it seem like we always lose the real greats, ex. Hendrix and SRV? Why can't crappy bands like Fallout Boy die in plane crashes instead? It's just not fair...


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Why does it seem like we always lose the real greats, ex. Hendrix and SRV? Why can't crappy bands like Fallout Boy die in plane crashes instead? It's just not fair...


HAH! Exactly my point!

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ratboy wrote:
zzdoc wrote:
ratboy wrote:
zzdoc wrote:
clackattack wrote:
the day stevie died the world of music lost the best guitar player its ever had :cry:


Your observations are a worthy tribute to his gifts but hardly the case.
J
ust to name a few hallmarks of their particular genre, virtuosity, and creativity I offer you:

Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Mark Knopfler, Albert Lee, Yngwie Malmstein, Roy Buchanan, Jimmy Page, James Burton, Larry Carleton, Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy, the young Larry Collins, Vince Gill, Jeff Beck, Keith Richards,
Danny Gatlin, Jimmy Hendrix...et cetera, et cetera, and so forth!!!

ZZdoc, I saw almost everyone you have listed here and I couldn't disagree with you more. I even saw SRV and Beck on the same stage and SRV blew him away (no contest). Saw SRV/Clapton on same stage again no contest. Saw SRV/Buddy Guy same stage again no contest. Keith Richards?!! Cmon! Him and Mick were so impressed with Stevie that they gave him one of his first breaks. Malmsteen wouldn't know "feel" if it walked up to him and punched him in the face.


If you insist on comparing apples and oranges, by all means, do so.

Umm...I didn't bring up any comparisons... you did.



Incorrect: The writer claimed that 'the world lost the best guitar player it ever had.' I responded to THAT statement.Where you're concerned, if you had seen SRV perform on the same stage with Andres Segovia, your partiality likely would have given SRV the kudos. THAT is comparing apples and oranges. Two great artists, each a virtuoso in his own genre, and what I gave you were examples of other players, all who rise to distinction in their own genre. Roy Buchanan, for example, was known as the "worlds greatest unknown guitar player.' As for Danny Gatton, other players used to follow him around the circuit just to watch him do his stuff, he was such a masterful and creative artist. I have no basic argument with your personal.preference other than, in MY opinion, I disagree with your jump to abolute superlative with respect to this one artist.


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