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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:25 am
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And to you and everyone: once more, thanks so much for your friendly words. Makes the whole thing lots of fun!

Cheers - C


Oh you don't know how much fun it is to me Ceri....its like watching some hit TV series with anticipation and cant wait for the next episode of what's gonna happen.... :D

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Oh you don't know how much fun it is to me Ceri....its like watching some hit TV series with anticipation and cant wait for the next episode of what's gonna happen.... :D


:lol: :lol: That's bonkers - and very nice! Thank you, man!

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Hi BigJay. That deserves a careful response:
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First, given the revelations of your skills and attention to detail, I cant help asking how you didnt notice things about this body that were somewhat glaring. In my simpleton examination, I noticed immediately that there were no screw holes drilled. This was clearly not a Fender factory issue body and red flags were there. What gives?


Well, simple carelessness is most of it. As mentioned in the first post, the body arrived just as I was leaving home for a few weeks, so I just glanced in the package, slung it in a corner and ran. Then other stuff got in the way and I didn't really look at it for several months. Slovenly; but there you go. The number of times I've written "buyer beware" on this Forum: yet unable to learn from my own advice!

Just been checking back through my emails: in fact I must have wondered about the timber at the time (July last year) from the Ebay photo because I notice I asked the seller about it. He replied: "It was sold to me as Ash (Axes R Us), but like yourself, I wasn't sure." It's a downright lie: the supplier named (axesrus.com) does not sell bodies like this. Not sure where they do source their bodies - but it ain't from ten year olds using a router for the first time!

The Ebay sale page has obviously lapsed, but for the record here is the seller:

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/kevlandau?&ss ... TQ:GB:1181

However, regarding screw holes, it was never claimed to be a Fender-made body. Most (all?) makers of aftermarket bodies supply them with screw holes undrilled.

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Second, the body is mohagany as you mentioned. I think this is exciting because of its tonal implications and differentiation from the typical alder/ash. Im curious to hear your reaction or impression of mohagany bodies and its implications to your finished product.

I'm going to be curious to hear it too! I'll let you know. A number of other Forum Users here already have mahogany Strat bodies: Nikininja is one and he knows I don't mind threads going off at tangents - if he'd like to chip in and discuss it. There's others too who I'm sure will want to say the difference is likely minimal compared to the effect of different pickups...

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Third, Im intrigued by your maticulous attention to seemingly unimportant details like the irregularly shaped pickup bays. Given what I've heard so many regular posters suggest, including you, unless the bays physically would not accept pups, I wonder why you care to fix them. Are there potential subtle tonal implications or other details that could differentiate a true piece of art from standard street level instruments like the one I assembled?

Well, as seen in the latest installment, the pickup cavities were so far off that the pickup loaded pickguard simply wouldn't even drop in, and had it done so would have been badly out of alignment with the neck.

But a lot of it is also no doubt hysterical neurosis. A (real) luthier I very much admire is Jol Dantzig at Hamer Guitars. Back in 2007 he launched a workshop blog. Here's an early post from it:

http://guitarguru.typepad.com/my_weblog ... ade-i.html

I'm that kind of obsessive-compulsive type that is deeply inspired by that photograph of a gentleman working away with chisels to get the inside of the control cavity perfect - for the sheer sake of it. My work ain't anywhere near that, but maybe one day it could be...

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Im very interested in hearing how you, as a truly sophisticated guitar luthier, think about your projects. Your attention to detail, etc, may imply subtleties about instruments that novices like I wouldnt know about or appreciate. But Im naturally curious and a bit of a perfectionist and really want to understand these minute details and their implications.

Very kind compliment, utterly undeserved.

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Of course, I might be overanalysing....maybe your are simply anal-retentive? Hah, hah...


That's the bit I deserve! The real truth of the matter: I kid you not!

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Call me "grass hopper".


Haha! Honestly, not out to teach anyone anything - hopefully not that presumptuous! And about a year of high school woodwork would give anyone the "skill" level of this.

It's merely a sharing exercise: I love these kinds of threads when other people do them.

Also, a learning process. I never knew we could do that stuff of shaping the veneer to fit the curve it's going into - untill trying it here. People sometimes have damaged or badly made neck pockets: I can see a possible use for that technique in the future. So there is some potential purpose to all this neurotic nonsense...!

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Great job!! If it had been me I would built up the neck socket bolted it on straight, did a unversal route ala 90's strat, and covered it up with a pickguard................naw really I'd have burned it


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The neck alignment, you'd be surprised at how many times I had to use pospsickle sticks to laterally shim CBS necks into place.
If your routing is exact, you shouldn't have too many problems once you line up your pickguard with everything else.

Beyond all of that, the one thing that will make it all worthwhile is the sound once you plug it in for the first time.


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That replacement body of mine isnt mahogany. It was sold to me as mahogany but ive been informed its sappele. Very airy snappy treble and a almost inarticulate bass end. I'm ditching it soon, im slowly growing to hate it and its ruining a otherwise good setup.

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That replacement body of mine isnt mahogany. It was sold to me as mahogany but ive been informed its sappele. Very airy snappy treble and a almost inarticulate bass end. I'm ditching it soon, im slowly growing to hate it and its ruining a otherwise good setup.


Uh-oh - that's not what I want to hear!

Sapele: isn't that what they call "African mahogany"? Given that we're not supposed to use the genuine Amazonian stuff any more? Blowed if I know for sure, but I looked at some pieces of sapele at my local timber supplier's yard recently and it certainly looks like what the body in this thread is made from.

This has already been as much work as making a body from scratch from a blank: don't much like the idea that I'm doing all of this in order to get an "almost inarticulate bass end"... Oh well; can't turn back now. Let's see...

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Im not going into a discusion on the tonal qualities of wood. Its like watching a dog chase its tail. I have no experience of mahogany on strats anyway.

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nikininja wrote:
That replacement body of mine isnt mahogany. It was sold to me as mahogany but ive been informed its sappele. Very airy snappy treble and a almost inarticulate bass end. I'm ditching it soon, im slowly growing to hate it and its ruining a otherwise good setup.

I thought Sepele was in the same species family as Mahogany just lower cost ? It is used a fair amount on acoustic guitars. I think it is also used for marire Ply as well.

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