If you are willing to put up with a pitch-challenged gig, the trem is pretty mobile and you can mak ethings happen without too many problems.
Those that want to avoid that kind of problem will flush-mount the trem, and in the process have to put up with one stiff trem.
Blackmore snaps them like twigs, its a good thing that some after-market springs will let you dive bomb with your pinky.

Some guys will just block it and forget about it, funny how these guys will play with the trem in place...are they hipnotizing the bootleggers? who knows?

Its a good thing that necessity has a way of inspiring someone to fix the obvious.
Your third option is to fashion and chuck the trem.

If you combine a sleeve that reaches 5mm downward, it won't shift out of place.
If you configure a cross-sectional wedge that matches the recommended distance for the trem block, extending the dimensions of the wedge will keep the trem shim from falling into the well.

The benefits are;
You can loosen the trem.
Ypu can also minimize any backward motion, you won't notice any difference.

Easy and cheap to make from plastic, its a decent fix for more than 30% of all guiutar players.
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Intresting idea. But theres one thing i see wrong with it.
concert pitch is as high as most guitarists tune but we all have our trems set at different angles. I judge mine by pitch of the upbend, but some do it by comfort alone. That would require a variable sized shim.

The inital setup of it would need some severe work so that when its installed or removed it wouldnt alter tuning.

Great idea though. Definately worth persuing, i'd buy one.

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I would try it out if I like how it feels and works then I'd use it permanently

I like floating my trems.

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2007 Fender Highway 1
2012 American Deluxe
2015 MIM Dave Murray HHH
2010 Fender Blacktop
1987 Fender Avalon Acoustic
2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

Good point, its your choice of how you want to orient your slant.
Another option is to customize your trem bar.

Your obviously a person of good idea's. What customization of the bar would you recommend?.

Got a feeling i could learn a good bit off you mate.

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Beginning this discussion with the assumption that a Strat trem is "pitch challenged" is problematic.

A strat trem with a heavy steel block, the trem springs properly balanced against the strings, and (most important) on a guitar with a properly cut nut will stay in tune, even through a double or triple stop with a single note bend. I know this is true because my Strat-style guitar has a Callaham block, a perfect nut and an absolutely dialed in setup, and it does not go out of tune, even with continual trem use and the bridge floating 1/8" off the face of the guitar.

That said, your design looks interesting.

That idea came to mind,..I guess about a year ago.
I let my trem float, but keeping in mind what other people have to put up with, its good for those that don't like to have to go to too much trouble setting up, let alone keeping tabs on the tuning.

You guys on the forum are much more proactive than most players;
Most either don't have a trem or just don't have a practical need to use it.
I know plenty of people that have never adjusted absolutely nothing on their guitars.
I tell every guitarist I meet that the Strat is the DIY guitar design par excellance.
Even among stratmeisters, I do notice a certain percentage that will flush mount their trems.

So, this is geared to the rest of the strat crowd that can now get some use out their trems without too many complications.

In my case, I've dissecting strats since I was 14, one kid with tools that didn't know any better....

For the ninja-mahhnnn, the topic on adjusting the trem bar is addressed in another thread.

Haha certainly the best way. Strats and teles were designed for the average tinkerer to mend.

If you want a guinea pig for the block, i'm your man.

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Buy a hardtail

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why when you can have hardtail, down pitch only or down and up pitch all on the same guitar in the time it takes to slide a mechanism into your trem. If we dont try new stuff and just stay along vintage lines things wont progress. This idea could be the next big thing, or even a precursor to it.

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Most of us have them already . I have a few in the room now, not all Fenders but hardtails none the less. Tele, LP's then you have your floating trems. Guitars are like potato chips how can you have just one? Every one ends up with more in time. Guitarist never own all the same because not one is good for all things.

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Too true mate. But sometimes it would be nice to just whack a wedge in and have its effects on your favourite guitar, which tremmed strats are for me.

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I have to admit I play My Telecaster's more.

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Thomas Jefferson

I have no tuning issues with my strat and I make use of the trem.,
Guitar is setup properly, and floating with 4 springs.
The strat trem was not designed for doing dive bombs.

My old Mexican strat did have tuning issues until I swapped out the trem block for a Calaham and put in Graphtec saddles.

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