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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:15 am
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so timber doesnt contribute to the primary tone of a guitar? :roll:

Thats it lads fender must of been having us over the last 57 years. Lets ll buy parker's. :wink:


Fender never told you fingerboard wood made a difference in sound.

Because it doesn't.

If they're implying now, it's because a million guitar players with no direct experience all believe it to be true.

But do you honestly think that after taking a piece of wood 1/4" thick, slicing 24 deep slots in it and filling those slots with metal sticks, that it has ANY affect on the tone of a guitar? You must believe in "mojo" and black cat bones and John the Conquerer root, too.

All that eye-rolling and winking doesn't add up to a factual concept.


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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:19 am
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Yeah whatever.

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:35 am
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Maple is more dense than rosewood. The denseness of wood is a factor that will affect tone. Dense woods absorb less and reflect sound waves more. To the ear, you will hear more pronounced high end. Bass frequencies will not get absorbed as easy. So what you are hearing is rolled off highs with softer rosewood over maple.

Now the question becomes, how much will the fingerboard absorb tone and transfer it to the body? I think its fair to say that it will change a bit. The string vibrates mostly over the fingerboard, but most of the vibration gets transfers to the guitar from the bridge and nut.

What am I trying to say, well everthing can affect tone, but its the whole, not the sum of its parts. Will a maple neck sound brighter that rosewood if all things are equal, sure. How much is unknown for sure, my guess is minimal. Surely a rosewood FB guitar cound be brighter overall due to other factors.

Ceramic pickups sound brighter than Alnico. A fixed bridge sounds brighter than a tremolo. A bolt-on neck sounds brighter than a set neck.

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I have one of each, black body-maple neck and sunburst-rosewood.
I chose them purely for asthetic reasons.


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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:00 am
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I believe in Mojo!!! :) 8) ...still stickin' with rosewood though. :D


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steviegee wrote:
I believe in Mojo!!! :) 8) ...still stickin' with rosewood though. :D


Each to their own mate. I have both and like them for different reasons.

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The rosewood fingerboard is easier to clean and more materials can be used to 'wet' the dirt that with time is impossible to keep off a fretboard
And the feeling, but most players find it easy to change between rosewood and maple fingerboards


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SlapChop wrote:
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"Brightness" and "darkness" are not audio terms.

Hmmm, my amp has a "bright" switch on it. I'm not pretending.


Yeah, and maybe it's even got a "vibrato" knob on it. Just like your guitar might have a "tremolo."

Let me know when you see a "bright" switch on a studio console and we'll talk.


Ok slappy, I'll let you know.


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nikininja wrote:
so timber doesnt contribute to the primary tone of a guitar? :roll:

Thats it lads fender must of been having us over the last 57 years. Lets ll buy parker's. :wink:


Fender never told you fingerboard wood made a difference in sound.

Because it doesn't.

If they're implying now, it's because a million guitar players with no direct experience all believe it to be true.

But do you honestly think that after taking a piece of wood 1/4" thick, slicing 24 deep slots in it and filling those slots with metal sticks, that it has ANY affect on the tone of a guitar? You must believe in "mojo" and black cat bones and John the Conquerer root, too.

All that eye-rolling and winking doesn't add up to a factual concept.


Slap, some friendly advice: there's a way to make a point without being a douchebag. Being a douche doesn't fit the profile of your average poster on this site.
Cheers.


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ratboy wrote:
Slap, some friendly advice: there's a way to make a point without being a douchebag. Being a douche doesn't fit the profile of your average poster on this site.
Cheers.


So, I present a reasoned opinion... one of your long time posters (I'm assuming) blows me some insulting eye-rolling and winking, implying that I'm some kind of idiot by daring to contradict what "everybody knows"... you resort to childish name-calling... and you think I'M behaving like a douchebag?

I almost forgot what online forums are like. I'll try to remember that the regulars are never, ever wrong, even when they are.

Cheers!


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SlapChop wrote:
I almost forgot what online forums are like. I'll try to remember that the regulars are never, ever wrong, even when they are.

Cheers!


Got nothing to do with who's been here how long. It has to do with the snotty and sarcastic tone of your second and subsequent posts on this thread.

Not appreciated.

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I didn't try to imply you were a idiot. I'm sorry if my post caused you offence. I however refuse to be drawn into a argument.

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SlapChop wrote:
ratboy wrote:
Slap, some friendly advice: there's a way to make a point without being a douchebag. Being a douche doesn't fit the profile of your average poster on this site.
Cheers.


So, I present a reasoned opinion... one of your long time posters (I'm assuming) blows me some insulting eye-rolling and winking, implying that I'm some kind of idiot by daring to contradict what "everybody knows"... you resort to childish name-calling... and you think I'M behaving like a douchebag?

I almost forgot what online forums are like. I'll try to remember that the regulars are never, ever wrong, even when they are.

Cheers!


Thanks for reinforcing my point! Well done.


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Hey guys I bought another new Strat today Yeehaa!! and it is my first rosewood fretboard. The others are maple. I've always prefered maple, but I thought the contrast of the rosewood board on the the olympic white looked very elegant... I'll let you guys know if I can hear a discernable difference.... Pictures soon :D

PS: I thought I'd grab another one before the price increase hits Feb 1st.

PSS: Welcome to the forum Slapchop even if it may have been a little rough :wink: Everybody uses these stupid emoticons but I can assure you that Niki mean't no offense by his comment... He's a very knowledgable fellow and I value his opinion as much as anybody elses on this forum including yours...

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After playing the new Strat with the rosewood fingerboard and my current favorite with maple thru the Twin in all pup positions clean and overdriven; the verdict is.......... :twisted: ............ :?: ........... :idea:
What everybody else said..... :lol: :cry:

I can feel the difference in my fingers and there is a slightly different sound to each guitar but I cannot attribute it soley to the neck... Oh well the debate goes on... I'll put the new one in the line up after I break her in some more and change those bullets for some slinkys...

Everybody :) you play a Strat......
Did I use enough of those emotithingies :?:

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