ahha the treble drop off does make a lot of sense. I've always found marshall treble to be very aggressive and favoured their middle sound often lowering the treble to 1 or 2. Guess thats why i prefered the 1960 the celestion G75's are quite pronounced on the upper mids.

That JMP is one hell of a desirable amp mate. I feel my wallet twitching with panic everytime i look at one.

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Hehehe! I've said it before and I'll say it again: hello, Orvilleowner!



One of these days I am determined to post a picture of a Fiesta Red Strat with "hello Orvilleowner" written on it...

BTW: to everyone else - what with Orvilleowner and Nikininja, I think we can tell we are in the company of the Marshall grown-ups, can't we?

Let's sit back and learn...

- C

The friend I mentioned who builds amps is the real grown-up.
He's built a couple low-wattage "Champ" type combos, but his Plexi-clone is the real proof. It's in the background of this pic (of his recently built Warmoth partsocaster). The amp is a 50 watt non-master volume type, hence, his use of an attenuator. He's also building a Trainwreck type thing and rebuilding a Boogie.

He just needs to get some real speaker cabinets, but then, I suppose, he'd stop bringing his creations to my house for testing!

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My other guitar is a Strat.

I think his attraction is for the cab you have under the JMP. Lets face it, you know what your getting with a marshall cab. Arguably the industry standard. That warmoth has me drooling. Is he open to commisions?
Fly out
see the whitehouse
see the lincoln memorial.
buy a custom built warmoth
take it round O.O's
violate several enviromental noise pollution laws.
fly back to england.

Sounds like a great weekend to me.

please consider me more of a 'petulant adolescent' than a grown up. Its far more in keeping with my mid-life crisis based self image.

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> I think his attraction is for the cab you have under the JMP.

I've already admitted that! It's a good thing I have two of those (the A and B versions of course)!

> That warmoth has me drooling. Is he open to commisions?

Anyone can do it, build a Warmoth custom, I mean. Even I did one (the very unique doubleneck), so I am SURE that you could do it. The hardest part is waiting the 1 to 3 months for Warmoth to deliver the body and neck you commisioned them to build. A bit of soldering and turning screws is the easy part.

My friend did "test drive" various Strats I have in order to get a handle on the type of pickups he wanted to use (Texas Specials, 57/62s, etc). He went with the Vintage Noiseless, which sounded nearly the same as the pickups in my 1964 (which most agree are the best sounding of all I have) to our ears. Although recently he emailed me wondering if he'd prefer the Hot Vintage Noiseless in order to get some more gain. I couldn't tell him how much hotter those were, however. I did offer him some old DiMarzio SDS-1 pickups, but he passed on those beasts.

> Fly out, see the whitehouse ... buy a custom built warmoth, take it round
> O.O's, violate several enviromental noise pollution laws.

Sure, have the police called to MY house!

It would be a great weekend.
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I believe the bottom line to this thread is
you can play a Strat through a Valvestate!
but if you can get hold of a 2203, please do.


My apologies to ceri, but I can't deal with an amp with more than 6 knobs.

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My other guitar is a Strat.

Well, if you think of this as three seperate amps (which is how they billed it when it was new out) then each one only has five knobs.

...Plus a few others.

...And some buttons.

...And some foot switches.

But absolutely no need for drive pedals!

http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp ... ode=TSL122

BTW: I notice their website says you can tour Marshall's factory by appointment. I've seen several of their factory tour DVDs, but has anyone done it for real?

Cheers - C

Yes, that helps.



I hope you don't think that I use drive pedals!

I don't really know what my 1977 2203 amp is called. It's got these markings: JMP, Mk II, 2203, etc. But I see that here
http://www.marshallamps.com/heritage/fi ... _30_02.asp
it's refered to as simply "Master Volume," so that's good enough for me.

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My other guitar is a Strat.

Haha - choleserol free guitar tone!

Come to think of it, I don't seem to remember ever hearing you talk about pedals - do you use any?

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On the factory tour DVD thing, I'm sure last time I viewed one I saw the current Valvestate amps being built from scratch in the UK. There seems to be some doubt over that point...?

Cheers - C

There is always an old (Thomas Organ) Cry Baby wah in my "tone chain."

While I have a nice little collection of vintage pedals (Echoplex, MXR, etc), about the only other pedal I now use from time to time is an Ibanez DE7 Echo pedal. (At least I think that's the model number.) It does a good job of emulating an old tape Echoplex; it's got a nice long delay time and it does the runaway thing well.

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My other guitar is a Strat.

77/ 22 h3

The holy grail of marshall 70's amps and pre-cursor to the jcm800's. In a lot of ways thier better than the 1959's jtm45's and other such vintage amps. Offering much better tonal variation with the classic 'plexi' sounds particularly the mid punch that 80's jcm800's lack.
O.O i can honestly say i always thought your amp was a jtm45 or maybe one of the rarer JMP plexi's. Isnt the master volume a mod on those amps, using one channels volume control as a main volume and the other channels volume as a gain control? More importantly, Is there any way to jumper the 2 channels and keep the gain control? Guess it wouldnt work but i can dream.
Now my jealousy gland is inflated like a football and i must avoid washington at all costs.

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As an ignorant out of towner I've been presuming that Orville's location listed as Washington means WA State, not Washington DC. Dunno if that's right?

Which would mean that you can still safely visit the Lincoln Memorial like you planned, Niki: but just not go anywhere near Seattle, for fear of base instincts overcoming you and rushing into Orville's house and making off with his amp...

It would be a bit rude, after all...

Cheers - C

it certainly wouldnt be cricket now would it.

Atleast im ok if i dont go near seattle.

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Couple things: Marshall introduced master volume versions in 1975. My amp isn't modded in any way. While there are two input jacks, there is only one input channel, the two jacks are the "Low" and "High" sensitivity inputs. The two volume controls are the "Master" and the "Pre-Amp" volume. It's not like the four-input non-master volume amps that have channels "I" and "II" or "Bright" and "Normal."

I call mine a 1977 because there's an August 1977 date written on an inspection/manufacturing sticker on the chassis. I bought it new in March 1978 from a shop called "Modern Music."

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Right, ceri, my Washingon is the State not the DC.

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My other guitar is a Strat.

BTW: Niki, if you need to see a statue of Abraham Lincoln, we have a very grand and solemn one right here in London in Parliament Square, gazing across at the Palace of Westminster (Houses of Parliament).

The only foreign leader ever honored in that way, I believe, until the recent statue of Nelson Mandela arrived. Pretty decent of us, huh? Considering only a handful of years before Lincoln we were burning down the White House and eating President Madison's dinner for him...

Still, we're all friends now...

- C

All we need now is Basil Fawlty to show up goose stepping and shouting 'dont mention the war'.

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