John Mayer Related thoughts, questions or Queries.

frankjc · **Posted:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:58 am

I like him. I wouldn't call him "great", but he's good. Nice to hear some guitar in pop songs. I don't think when he did "wind cries mary" he played it right. I have only heard it once, and it didn't sound right. His tone is pretty good.

Benjammin' · **Posted:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:05 am

I just think he's totally amazing... In my opinion he is for the 2000s what Hendrix was for the 60s and SRV for the 80s... well, maybe not what Hendrix was for the 60s because it is totally impossible to come anywhere near what Hendrix did for guitar playing in the 60s and in general, but still. JM is my absoluitely favourite guitar player, younger than 35 (and still alive)

ivychiu · **Joined:** Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:12 am **Posts:** 4

Blaqdog wrote:

You know I was thinking, would it be right to put Mayer in the same league as Clapton, Hendrix, SRV etc. It seems to me that if he hadn't started off making bubble gum pop tunes first he wouldn't have acheived the same amount success he has today. I mean a lot more guitarists respected him once he came out with the John Mayer Trio live and Continuum, but if he had done that first I think he would've been able to garner a name for himself, or he would've had a harder time doing it. He's a great guitar player, but I don't sense any type of musical revelation or revolution coming from John Mayer. The artists I mentioned above stuck with what they did which always involved the blues, Mayer had to do pop first and then once he was recognized went into the blues. Idk maybe I'm completely wrong with my theory. :roll:

Actually, I agree with you. I think the one of the reasons he won't be able to achieve that "revolution" is because he needs to keep both sides of his fan base happy- the pop-loving, daughters and why georgia fans, as well as the hardcore, who did you think i was blues fans. Another is simply because of the little emphasis on the blues genre today. It's been devalued even though it really shouldn't be.

Blaqdog · **Joined:** Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:04 am **Posts:** 317

ivychiu wrote:

Blaqdog wrote:

You know I was thinking, would it be right to put Mayer in the same league as Clapton, Hendrix, SRV etc. It seems to me that if he hadn't started off making bubble gum pop tunes first he wouldn't have acheived the same amount success he has today. I mean a lot more guitarists respected him once he came out with the John Mayer Trio live and Continuum, but if he had done that first I think he would've been able to garner a name for himself, or he would've had a harder time doing it. He's a great guitar player, but I don't sense any type of musical revelation or revolution coming from John Mayer. The artists I mentioned above stuck with what they did which always involved the blues, Mayer had to do pop first and then once he was recognized went into the blues. Idk maybe I'm completely wrong with my theory. :roll:

Actually, I agree with you. I think the one of the reasons he won't be able to achieve that "revolution" is because he needs to keep both sides of his fan base happy- the pop-loving, daughters and why georgia fans, as well as the hardcore, who did you think i was blues fans. Another is simply because of the little emphasis on the blues genre today. It's been devalued even though it really shouldn't be.

I just realized I made a mistake in my paragraph :lol:

. I meant I don't think he would've

josephlyw · **Joined:** Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:00 am **Posts:** 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeRaUjTBuv0
the best version of gravity.. in case u haven't check this out!

i'm 18, i just don't get why ppl consider hendrix, srv, clapton and the like as guitar gods..
Don't get me wrong! I respect them. but imo the tunes they play get repetitive at times.. i mean you can listen to maybe 15 minutes of blues but you'll start to get bored :roll:

John mayer imo is revolutionary in a sense that he's not just blues-all-the-way.
i think he blends pop, rock, blues well

gravity is kind of a blues tune right? but it's just different! u can listen to it all day.. the song structure is a bit different and the solos don't get repetitive..
i really think he takes the genre to the next level.

Blaqdog · **Joined:** Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:04 am **Posts:** 317

josephlyw wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeRaUjTBuv0
the best version of gravity.. in case u haven't check this out!

i'm 18, i just don't get why ppl consider hendrix, srv, clapton and the like as guitar gods..
Don't get me wrong! I respect them. but imo the tunes they play get repetitive at times.. i mean you can listen to maybe 15 minutes of blues but you'll start to get bored :roll:

John mayer imo is revolutionary in a sense that he's not just blues-all-the-way.
i think he blends pop, rock, blues well

gravity is kind of a blues tune right? but it's just different! u can listen to it all day.. the song structure is a bit different and the solos don't get repetitive..
i really think he takes the genre to the next level.

Here's a few reasons why they're considered guitar gods. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck05ixICiak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YIHvK5WN7I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10qLYy6hiFQ

josephlyw · **Joined:** Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:00 am **Posts:** 2

haha thanks for the reply!
i have to agree they're godly lol

anyway, music-wise .. i still think john mayer has got more substance and that's why i think his music is more appealing. for instance, in the video i posted i don't consider the solos as just "improvisation". you can really feel that he's delivering the message of the song through the solos. they fit so well with the song and the lyrics.. as opposed to just a show of skills and filling in

maybe i just haven't listened enough of the gods...

Blaqdog · **Joined:** Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:04 am **Posts:** 317

josephlyw wrote:

haha thanks for the reply!
i have to agree they're godly lol

anyway, music-wise .. i still think john mayer has got more substance and that's why i think his music is more appealing. for instance, in the video i posted i don't consider the solos as just "improvisation". you can really feel that he's delivering the message of the song through the solos. they fit so well with the song and the lyrics.. as opposed to just a show of skills and filling in

maybe i just haven't listened enough of the gods...

No I understand what you're saying. Gravity is probably my favorite song by John Mayer and if you like his stuff then that's all that matters. He's more talented and skillful then a lot of the artists that are being promoted by the music industry today that's for sure. Here's a clip of my favorite solo, it doesn't get any godlier than this

:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWnapx502uQ

ivychiu · **Joined:** Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:12 am **Posts:** 4

Blaqdog wrote:

ivychiu wrote:

Blaqdog wrote:

You know I was thinking, would it be right to put Mayer in the same league as Clapton, Hendrix, SRV etc. It seems to me that if he hadn't started off making bubble gum pop tunes first he wouldn't have acheived the same amount success he has today. I mean a lot more guitarists respected him once he came out with the John Mayer Trio live and Continuum, but if he had done that first I think he would've been able to garner a name for himself, or he would've had a harder time doing it. He's a great guitar player, but I don't sense any type of musical revelation or revolution coming from John Mayer. The artists I mentioned above stuck with what they did which always involved the blues, Mayer had to do pop first and then once he was recognized went into the blues. Idk maybe I'm completely wrong with my theory. :roll:

Actually, I agree with you. I think the one of the reasons he won't be able to achieve that "revolution" is because he needs to keep both sides of his fan base happy- the pop-loving, daughters and why georgia fans, as well as the hardcore, who did you think i was blues fans. Another is simply because of the little emphasis on the blues genre today. It's been devalued even though it really shouldn't be.

I just realized I made a mistake in my paragraph :lol:

. I meant I don't think he would've

hahah yeah i figured. 'sall good.

ivychiu · **Joined:** Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:12 am **Posts:** 4

josephlyw wrote:

haha thanks for the reply!
i have to agree they're godly lol

anyway, music-wise .. i still think john mayer has got more substance and that's why i think his music is more appealing. for instance, in the video i posted i don't consider the solos as just "improvisation". you can really feel that he's delivering the message of the song through the solos. they fit so well with the song and the lyrics.. as opposed to just a show of skills and filling in

maybe i just haven't listened enough of the gods...

well it's mainly because john makes his blues songs more melodic, and therefore making it mainstream. He's said many times before that he wants to have his music reach as many people as possible, and the only way to do that is by playing the pop (basically short for popular) genre. He's dialing in a bit of blues while making sure that it's still acceptable to his pop fans. Imo gravity is still more pop than blues, which is why it gets stuck in your head so easily. But yeah, john definitely brings his own game/style to blues. The stuff he does with trio.. man..

Benjammin' · **Posted:** Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:17 am

Blaqdog wrote:

josephlyw wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeRaUjTBuv0
the best version of gravity.. in case u haven't check this out!

i'm 18, i just don't get why ppl consider hendrix, srv, clapton and the like as guitar gods..
Don't get me wrong! I respect them. but imo the tunes they play get repetitive at times.. i mean you can listen to maybe 15 minutes of blues but you'll start to get bored :roll:

John mayer imo is revolutionary in a sense that he's not just blues-all-the-way.
i think he blends pop, rock, blues well

gravity is kind of a blues tune right? but it's just different! u can listen to it all day.. the song structure is a bit different and the solos don't get repetitive..
i really think he takes the genre to the next level.

Here's a few reasons why they're considered guitar gods. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck05ixICiak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YIHvK5WN7I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10qLYy6hiFQ

Wow, I wanted to post the exact same links... well, I might have picked Texas Flood live at El Mocambo but Lenny is probably a better example for SRV's not-so "boring"-blues playing... btw: I'm only 19 and nevertheless I love "The Gods", especially Hendrix

rfrakes331k · **Joined:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:59 pm **Posts:** 21

It would be nice if Fender would offer John's Black Relic Pickups for sale at a price that we could afford. The rest is as the first poster indicated, his fingers, his Two Rock amps, and his Dumble amp.

jaboc83 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:05 am

rfrakes331k wrote:

It would be nice if Fender would offer John's Black Relic Pickups for sale at a price that we could afford. The rest is as the first poster indicated, his fingers, his Two Rock amps, and his Dumble amp.

I hope I don't catch too much flack on this one, but I was surprised to find out that you can get really close to his tone with a POD X3. I know usually you can get "close" to anybody's tone with a POD. But the first time I downloaded this JM patch for the POD I was actually very surprised how close it sounded. That's with a standard MIM and using a peavey PA system to avoid coloring the tone any. So, if you own a pod go hunt down the JM patch on the Line 6 site and I think you'll be impressed. Granted you still need his fingers for it to be just right

juanozzy · **Posted:** Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:15 am

JM can play anything he wants. His playing is great and almost do what ever he wants to play. You can saw him playing "lenny" or Hendrix tunes in you tube. He got an amazing rithmn ...but i still want hear from him great blues songs. He can do that....but those pop/rock/ballads are really good but i still want to hear a great Blues album from him.

Troublecall · **Posted:** Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:57 am

I think he is overrated and can't sing.

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