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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:06 pm
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hi.
at the moment i have vintage alnico 3 strat pickups which i dont like
i am thinking of upgrading the pickups.
would there be much tone quality difference between my 'stock mex 70s strat alnico 3 vintage pickups' and 'fender hot noiseless pickups'

i know the tone wouldnt be much different i am mainly just worryed about the general tone quality.

what does ye fellows think?...

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:13 pm
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I have a MIM Strat. I really didn't like the pickups very much, they were noisy and I didn't like the tone. So I upgraded them to Fender Vintage Noiseless Strat pickups and the difference is like night and day. Now I can get all kinds of great tones out of it and I love the way they sound. I can nail Jimi Hendrix tones with them. So yeah, if the Hot Noiseless pickups sound half as good as the Vintage Noiseless pickups do there'll still be a huge difference between them and the stock mexican pickups. If I were you I'd try to find somewhere (a guitar store) that you can try a guitar equipped with Hot Noiseless pickups to make sure you like them first.

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:43 pm
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The Hot Noiseless pickups are a world of difference from your stock pickups. You will see a lot more gain and less noise but in my opinion a loss of character from your Strat. Clapton and Beck swear by noiseless pickups and far be it from me to question their tastes but.. I just think that Strats sound better with Alnico type pickups.

If you are looking to find a pickup that is similar to your current tone but with a little more quality I would strongly advise that you try the Custom Shop 69's.

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:47 pm
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cwpainter wrote:
Clapton and Beck swear by noiseless pickups and far be it from me to question their tastes but.. I just think that Strats sound better with Alnico type pickups.



I wonder if tinnitus is a factor here. There's no way these guys don't have hearing damage. i wonder if the hiss bothers you more?


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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:21 pm
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Twelvebar wrote:
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Clapton and Beck swear by noiseless pickups and far be it from me to question their tastes but.. I just think that Strats sound better with Alnico type pickups.



I wonder if tinnitus is a factor here. There's no way these guys don't have hearing damage. i wonder if the hiss bothers you more?



Standard Strat noise doesn't bother me at all. I think that it is a fair price to pay for the amazing tones that can be had from a Strat with vintage style pickups. Besides, all of the clubs that I play at here in NYC have such terrible wiring that it doesn't matter at all what kind of pickups you have- everything is going to make noise.

In defense of the legends.. If I were playing arenas where every last little thing was perfect, clear and noise free I would not want my guitar making any noise.

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:09 pm
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how do american standard pickups shape up against hot noiseless?

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:35 pm
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They have the same sort of vibe- very round and easy to coax good tones out of but nothing exceptional. The Hot Noiseless are just going to be, well, hotter and quieter.

Of all of the noiseless pickups my personal favorites are the SCN's. They have the most vintage vibe, aren't too hot and are very quiet.

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Gotta say i find vintage noiseless harsh, raspy and lifeless. They do have a stupidly high ammount of treble bite though. I paid £115 for em. For another £50 i could of had kinmans. I wish i'd taken the kinman option now. I've had my VN's 6 months now and still cant get them to sound balanced and clear, i can get balanced tone or a clear and 'ice cream headache' tone. I prefered the ceramic's in my old MIM, i wish i'd never binned em.

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Gotta say i find vintage noiseless harsh, raspy and lifeless. They do have a stupidly high ammount of treble bite though. I paid £115 for em. For another £50 i could of had kinmans. I wish i'd taken the kinman option now. I've had my VN's 6 months now and still cant get them to sound balanced and clear, i can get balanced tone or a clear and 'ice cream headache' tone. I prefered the ceramic's in my old MIM, i wish i'd never binned em.

I have read some good things about the Kinman pickups. I would like to hear the Kinman Hank Marvin's.

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I like the SCN's. They have a very balanced tone.


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nikininja wrote:
Gotta say i find vintage noiseless harsh, raspy and lifeless. They do have a stupidly high ammount of treble bite though. I paid £115 for em. For another £50 i could of had kinmans. I wish i'd taken the kinman option now. I've had my VN's 6 months now and still cant get them to sound balanced and clear, i can get balanced tone or a clear and 'ice cream headache' tone. I prefered the ceramic's in my old MIM, i wish i'd never binned em.


I don't know about lifeless, but the Vintage Noiseless pickups do have a very treble heavy tone. I think the Hot Noiseless pickups have less of that, and the SNCs are awesome.

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