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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:40 pm
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I love the Neck on my '07 Highway 1 Strat. The Headstock looks cool to me, and the jumbo frets are sweet. In my opinion the strings bend easier and you do not have to press so hard on the strings to get the note to play. The action on my HWY 1 is lower than my ESP LTD and most of the other guitars I have owned in the past (before lowering them myself) allowing me to play fast right out of the box. I have owned other Strats before and to me this one is great. The only thing I would recommend is to buy the HSC along with the guitar and throw that stupid gig bag into the trash.

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:10 am
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BigJay wrote:
Phopkins....I appreciate your view and, believe me, I have not made up my mind on anything. Im just making sure I understand the difference between what I "want" and what I "need". You didnt really tell me anything except buy the expensive one. You list yourself as a professional musician. For you, I suspect only the best will do. It might be a career decision. I am a professional financial analyst (maybe that makes some sense) and a wannabe blues/rock guitarist who is trully interested in other opinions, especially from pro's. You arent wasting my time except if you dont tell me "why" I should or shouldnt go with one or another neck. So help me understand.

So here is what I have so far.....NOS 4.5 lbs alder American Standard Strat body, New Custom Shop 69 RI pups, CTS pots, Locking Schaller tuners, AmerDelux strat tremolo w/steel block, 3 ply guard, etc.

I own a 1974-ish Fender Bandmaster Reverb TFL5005 driving a Marshall 2x12 with a gain-overdrive pedal and a Cry Baby Whah pedel.

I cant solo like SRV or Clapton, but I could back them up.

I kinda think the $500 AmDelux neck is sort of out of my ballpark, but could be talked into it. So tell me what you think.

Why should I buy one or the other??


It is not my mission or wish to talk you or anyone else into buying one item over the other,nor do I care to. All you really need to do is look at the specification of each(that can easily be found on this web site) and make YOUR own decision based on your price range and needs! You can find out all you need to know to make a decision. Price, wood type,frets, hardware etc. is all there for you to see and decide. I broke one of my own rules that I placed on myself by getting involved in telling someone else what they should buy. I think(hope) your are mature and knowledgeable enough to do it yourself. So please disregaurd anything I've suggested. I hope you find and buy what will suit you best and that you enjoy it for many years to come.
The way this thread has evolved is why I placed such a rule upon myself. I log on here to enjoy, talk about guitars and amps and not to get in a p...ing contest.
Once again Peace my fellow forum member! :wink:

If you remember you started a thread asking about the American neck versus the Deluxe neck. Which two necks are next my friend?Squier vs MIM? here is a link to that one
http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... hor=BigJay
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:04 am
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Sorry you feel that way about me. You have been on here a relatively short time and if you ask most of the other posters on this forum about me I would expect you would get very little negative feedback. I'll leave you be my friend. :) BIG JAY!


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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:57 am
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BigJay wrote:
Pfop....you misunderstand my intent. Your are also arogant, condescending and rude.

You are correct that I have started more than one thread about necks. I am interested in any information about various necks so I can make an educated decision. I also started a thread asking if I "can" or "should" put my brand new Custom Shop 69 RI pickups on the S1-switching. See, contrary to your assumptions about me and my thread intentions, I already bought most of the components for my guitar, including top of the line pups, bridge and tuner. I sacraficed on the body because Im pretty convinced there is little to gain by spending twice as much on a Deluxe body. The neck decision, however, offers much "variability" and, therefore, risk....risk that I make an uninformed and poor decision that I could regret later.

You are also correct in that there is much technical data about guitars. However, I have not found a significant amount of data specific to necks. I realize some necks have different frets, different radius, different truss systems, etc. That's pretty easy. But I have not played each combination.

I point out to you that those data sources are also designed to market and sell guitars and related stuff. Sales and marketing literature typically describes each component like its the only one you need. As I read those materials, I might believe all Fender necks are made with the same quality materials, the same quality manufacture, etc. However, we all know this is simply not true. Fender, nor any other manufacturer, would ever tell you their lower cost neck is prone to warp. They wont tell you the neck is more difficult to play because of the finish and low quality frets. Blah, blah, blah...

One way these quality differences become known is through users and owners. For example, how would I know a neck "feels" funny unless I play one at lenght or ask people that have spent a lot of time playing it. How many people complained about the Hwy1's before Fender decided to improve the guitar design, including components like the neck, in 2006. Did they go far enough? Im not sure, so I want to know what users think. How many people bought an MIJ or MIM component, believing its every bit as good (quality, playability) as the American made products?

So, as you probably know from your research of my threads, I have repeatedly asked people to describe the various necks "playability" and "stability". Get it? Trying to learn....

You suggested I have already made up my mind, implying Im trying to start some argument or debate. The fact is, as demonstrated by my threads, I am asking for users experience with various necks because I dont have that experience and value that input before I drop a pile of $$$ on something I may not like.

I suggest that you are the one who is picking fights and then holding yourself out as somehow of higher principle because you dont give advice. Well, you did give some information ("right hand", tube amp, etc) and I really appreciate it. I learned that you dont put as much weight into the neck as I thought was appropriate and I do appreciate that.

Now, to allieviate your wierd concern about offering opinions or advice, let me say that I relieve you of any and/or all liability, implied or otherwise. I warrantee your thoughts against poor judgement. I will not blame you if I make the wrong decision, even if you were the primary source of that supporting information. OK.

Lighten up, Francis!

big jay. always remember some people think
just because the american standards have rolled fretts
and a truss rodd that the neck is a better deal than the highway one
HOG WASH! like i said befor back in the early 70's the strats
did not have rolled edges (fretts) and some of this other stuff that
is useless to me and many other guitarist out there pro and none pro.
the highway one in tone and sustain walkes all over the new american standards there are many other web sites ot there with guitarist/musicians
who feel the same way i do.
bottom line you get what is right for you.


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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:40 am
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BigJay wrote:
BTW....Always.....the newer Hwy1's do a have a truss rod and they do have rolled frets. These are some of the improvements Fender made in 2006 after receiving many complaints about the design.

They still have the jumbo frets, which theoretically improves tone and sustain. I went with a AmDelux trem with stainless saddles and block to further improve tone and sustain.

Thanks again.

You are correct they do have a truss rod (a standard style) not anything new but not old like the old bullets. I guess when you say rolled Frets you mean Rolled Fingerboard and I was not aware that the Hwy1 had that. My Sons' does not and I don't no why and the few I have worked on did not as well. The Hwy1 has a nice neck but dont think it is like a neck from the 70's but for the headstck look. That three bolt neck from back then well what can I say about that not much. I do have one thats in good shape in my closet that may find a body one day. I hope you do get a neck that you are happy with. You have had several people tell you there thoughts and reason to why one over the other along with a little of that mine is better then yours which just comes from people who are happy with what they have. Thats Cool no harm with that. I hope a few things I pointed out to you helped along the way. As I am typing this I am sitting in My home office and theres 8 guitars in just here . I like them all but I no there are better ones around as well. They all have there own feel and sound so good luck on your search. Also I have done a lot of Fret jobs in my life from the old pulled in ones to the newer pressed.
I would like to hear your theory on how Jumbo Frets improve tone and sustain so please teach and old dog something.

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:32 pm
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Wow. We've had several threads that have turned angry in the last few days, haven't we? That doesn't usually happen on this Forum, and on the rare occasions it's often one person going around shouting at everyone and creating a mess. But that hasn't been the case in these recent rows.

Let's keep it friendly, why not? Surely we can discuss what we like about a particular guitar neck without yelling at each other? Maybe I missed it but I don't think anyone here is saying the HWY-1 neck is no good; merely that it has some different features from the Am Std neck. Which after all was the point of the thread.

Not attributing blame or taking anyone's side. But for the record F Hopkins and cvilleira are two longstanding members of the Forum who are both very well liked and respected, because they are helpful and friendly. Neither of those gentlemen are looking for a fight. If we trace it back I think raised voices here come from misunderstanding rather than intended rudeness.

The respect and friendliness of this Forum is one of the best things about it.

Peace, people! Let's be nice to each other.

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:56 pm
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Ceri wrote:
Wow. We've had several threads that have turned angry in the last few days, haven't we? That doesn't usually happen on this Forum, and on the rare occasions it's often one person going around shouting at everyone and creating a mess. But that hasn't been the case in these recent rows.

Let's keep it friendly, why not? Surely we can discuss what we like about a particular guitar neck without yelling at each other? Maybe I missed it but I don't think anyone here is saying the HWY-1 neck is no good; merely that it has some different features from the Am Std neck. Which after all was the point of the thread.

Not attributing blame or taking anyone's side. But for the record F Hopkins and cvilleira are two longstanding members of the Forum who are both very well liked and respected, because they are helpful and friendly. Neither of those gentlemen are looking for a fight. If we trace it back I think raised voices here come from misunderstanding rather than intended rudeness.

The respect and friendliness of this Forum is one of the best things about it.

Peace, people! Let's be nice to each other.

Respect - C

what this have to do with the issue
so they have been here a while does that make them right
no it does not. personaly i have found there recent post
useless to me.


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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:47 pm
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fhopkins wrote:
Big Jay, I have the same hope. I am sorry if I offended you and hope we can leave any hard feelings behind and start over! Welcome to the forum and lets let this thing die between us my friend! :wink:

We are here to help one n other are we not hop?

But Bigjay there is no such thing as a Greasebucket pot that is the name of the circut design in which they have a Cap and a Resister added to each pot. The resistor is lowering the load and making the pickups more powerful but still maintaining a ground so that some highs still bleed through to ground keeping the sound from being to bright.

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fhopkins wrote:
Big Jay, I have the same hope. I am sorry if I offended you and hope we can leave any hard feelings behind and start over! Welcome to the forum and lets let this thing die between us my friend! :wink:

We are here to help one n other are we not hop?

But Bigjay there is no such thing as a Greasebucket pot that is the name of the circut design in which they have a Cap and a Resister added to each pot. The resistor is lowering the load and making the pickups more powerful but still maintaining a ground so that some highs still bleed through to ground keeping the sound from being to bright.


I agree 100% :)


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